Saturday, July 13, 2013

Can we ever get over losing great talented people?


Tinker:

I guess that everybody can't have the talent of George Washington who applied that intangible ability in forming the very first American United States Republic. Also Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, were people with great political talent back in the day that many other people did not have.

Look at the working ability of the people running Washington DC today. It doesn't really seem fair dose it?

Aaron Burr shot
Alexander Hamilton in a duel between two prominent American on July 11, 1804.

That in my opinion Burr killed one of the very greatest leaders living in America then. If it wasn't for Hamilton federalist papers the United States would not have worked in the beginning years of our country's life.


Alexander Hamilton saved the United States of America and was a great man. 
So to me Alexander Hamilton was one of my greatest American heroes.

Losing a very talented person to premature death from sickest, or crime, or accident. Is heartbreaking.

Likewise wasting the potential of a obvious talented man or women to addiction of alcohol and drugs, or crime. Is a very bad lost to all of humanity.


And a tremendous lost to me, because I simply truly enjoy talented people.
I have never really recovered over losing those kind of people in my lifetime or country's past history.

I'm still grieving over losing Stonewall Jackson among others. What could have been is a ongoing haunting awareness for me as I think about how much more enriching our society would have been if the talents people in our world would not have been lost unnecessarily.
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Alexander Hamilton and Aaron Burr's Duel


Alexander Hamilton and Aaron Burr's Duel On July 11, 1804, Alexander Hamilton and Aaron Burr met on the dueling grounds at Weehawken, New Jersey, to fight the final skirmish of a long-lived political and personal battle. When the duel was over, Hamilton would be mortally wounded, and Burr would be wanted for murder.

Hamilton was a Federalist. Burr was a Republican. The men clashed repeatedly in the political arena. The first major skirmish was in 1791, when Burr successfully captured a United States Senate seat from Philip Schuyler, Hamilton's powerful father-in-law. Hamilton, then Treasury secretary, would have counted on Schuyler to support his policies. When Burr won the election, Hamilton fumed.

In 1800 Burr obtained and had published "The Public Conduct and Character of John Adams, Esq., President of the United States.," a document highly critical of Adams, a Federalist. Hamilton, its author, had intended it for private circulation. Its publication proved highly embarrassing to Hamilton and helped widen rifts in the Federalist Party. That same year, when Republicans Aaron Burr and Thomas Jefferson tied in balloting for the presidency, Hamilton lobbied Congress to decide the election in Jefferson's favor. Hamilton's campaign had little effect, but in the end, Jefferson emerged the winner.

It was the New York governor's race of 1804, however, that pushed the two men to violence. In that election, Burr turned his back on the Republicans and ran as an independent. Burr believed that if he won, he would regain power. The prospect of Burr leading New York mortified Hamilton, who despised and mistrusted Burr completely. In early 1804, Hamilton tried to convince New York Federalists not to support Burr.

Although Hamilton's campaign was probably not the deciding factor, the Burr campaign failed. Burr was crushed in the general election by Morgan Lewis, the Republican candidate, who was supported by George and DeWitt Clinton, powerful New York Republicans.

The battle for New York had been a bruising one, but in the end, a relatively minor slight precipitated the Burr-Hamilton duel. In February, 1804, a New York Republican, Dr. Charles D. Cooper, attended a dinner party at which Alexander Hamilton spoke forcefully and eloquently against Burr. Cooper later wrote a letter to Philip Schuyler in which he made reference to a particularly "despicable opinion" Hamilton expressed about Burr. The letter was published in a New York newspaper the "Albany Register."
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South Florida Prepares For Zimmerman Verdict

George Zimmerman glances back at the back of the courtroom during his trial in Seminole circuit court June 26, 2013 in Sanford, Florida. (Photo by Jacob Langston-Pool/Getty Images)
George Zimmerman glances back at the back of the courtroom during his trial in Seminole circuit court June 26, 2013 in Sanford, Florida. (Photo by Jacob Langston-Pool/Getty Images)
MIAMI (CBS4) – The Miami-Dade Police Department is partnering with local pastors in anticipation of the verdict in the George Zimmerman trial.

From the pulpit of the Peaceful Zion Missionary Baptist Church, Miami-Dade Police Director JD Patterson preached peace Thursday evening.

“Riots are not acceptable and riots are not expected,” Patterson said.

MDPD’s motto for the outcome of the case is “Be vocal, not violent.”
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Judge In Zimmerman Case Pressured by Obama Administration?








Bizarre outburst against Zimmerman suggests prejudice

Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones

Speculation is raging that the judge in the George Zimmerman case could have been put under pressure by the Obama administration after she staged a bizarre outburst during which she interrogated Zimmerman while repeatedly silencing his lawyers.


The hostile exchange began when Judge Debra Nelson asked Zimmerman if he planned to testify.

Essentially, Judge Nelson told Zimmerman he had the “absolute right to remain silent” but then proceeded to demand he answer her questions interrogation-style while silencing his lawyers.

Defense attorney Don West twice objected to Nelson’s interrogation, prompting the judge to raised her voice and exclaim, “Your objection is overruled!” in a manner more befitting of an angry parent lecturing a child than a legal professional.

Both of Zimmerman’s lawyers appeared shocked as attorney Mark O’Mara asked under his breath, “what is going on?”

Several legal experts and observers said the outburst was unprecedented.

“I have never seen that in more than 30 years of court reporting,” tweeted journalist Kathi Belich.

Former Senatorial candidate Richard Rivette also expressed his shock at the judge’s behavior.

“This judge is an idiot. I spent five years investigating high profile capital cases defending people from the death penalty, and worked for the Federal judiciary as an independent investigator on other cases. No judge ever inquires as to whether a defendant will testify until the entire defense case is presented. If the defense rests and does not call the defendant then the judge knows there will be no testimony. If the defense calls the defendant then that’s when the judge finds out. They have to get through the entire case first. To see if it is valid after prosecution cross-examines their witnesses and experts as to whether a defendant SHOULD testify, which is decided in private not in public, and NOT on the record. By doing this, the judge has undermined a portion of Zimmerman’s credibility. He looks like he is waffling and this is normal judge/defendant questioning, which it is NOT,” said Rivette.

Respondents to the story at the National Review Online also expressed their view that Zimmerman was being railroaded.


“A fix is in from the administration to find Zimmerman guilty regardless of what it takes,” commented one.

“By demanding that Zimmerman respond to a question, after she has assured him that he has the right to remain silent, she is undermining his right to remain silent and making it appear as though he and his attorneys are not firm in their convictions. This judge is shameless,” added another.

Judge Nelson also ruled this week that Trayvon Martin’s text messages, which showed that Martin had been involved in fights before and was trying to buy or sell a gun, cannot be shown to the jury, which some suggested was another indication of an anti-Zimmerman bias.

Nelson also granted a request by prosecutors to block the defense’s attempt to show the jury a computer-animated depiction of the fight between Martin and Zimmerman.

She is also likely to allow the jury to consider lesser charges against Zimmerman in light of the prosecution’s probable failure to prove its case for second-degree murder, another indication that the state is desperate to avoid him walking free.

Judge Nelson has been very careful at every stage of the trial to dismiss evidence or testimony that could convince the jury in favor of acquitting Zimmerman.

Now some are asking the question – did Nelson’s aggressive outburst represent an attempt to prejudice the jury against Zimmerman?

Given the likelihood that Zimmerman will be acquitted, has Judge Nelson been put under pressure by the federal government to aggressively advocate for the prosecution, just as Supreme Court Justice John Roberts was apparently pressured to vote to uphold Obamacare?


Ever since President Barack Obama personally inserted himself into the controversy by declaring Trayvon Martin to be akin to the son he never had, higher-ups have constantly meddled in the case in an effort to secure a murder charge for a scenario that Zimmerman would not normally have even been arrested for under Florida’s Stand Your Ground law.

Indeed, ex-Sanford police chief Bill Lee told CNN yesterday that “he felt pressure from city officials to arrest Zimmerman to placate the public rather than as a matter of justice,” and that his investigation “provided no probable cause to arrest Zimmerman at the scene.”

It also emerged this week that the federal government encouraged and funded last year’s protests demanding the arrest of Zimmerman via the Community Relations Service, a division of the Department of Justice. Documents obtained by Judicial Watch show that the CRS was “deployed to Sanford, FL, following the Trayvon Martin shooting to help organize and manage rallies and protests against George Zimmerman,” spending millions of dollars in the process.

Given the plethora of threats by Trayvon supporters to stage violent riots if Zimmerman is acquitted, could Nelson be under pressure to secure a charge of at least manslaughter in order to avoid nationwide civil disorder?

If that’s the case, her apparent effort to prejudice the jury clearly suggests that a mistrial has taken place.
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Tinker:

I remember the first time that I saw Cecil Collins running with the football in 1997 as a college running back playing a football game in LSU tiger stadium. He was truly a above average LSU college football player.

Then the next thing I knew was that Cecil Collins was getting into deep trouble with the law. Then he was gone and I kept feeling a empty lost about what might have been. Because I became very sorry to witness the absolute wasted talent of Cecil Collins great running back ability.

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April 05, 1999

Heavy Freight

Cecil Collins comes with lots of baggage and little college experience but enough talent to be one of the first running backs taken in the NFL draft

By John Ed Bradley

For a month in 1997 Collins, then a sophomore at LSU, might have been the best college football player in America. In three games, two of them against tough Southeastern Conference opponents, he rushed for 583 yards on 69 carries and looked even better than Faulk, who at the time was being touted as a Heisman candidate. But on his third carry against Vanderbilt on Oct. 4, Collins suffered a season-ending leg injury, and fans in the state of Louisiana were deprived of a player they had already elevated to folk status.

"Cecil is as good a pure tailback as I've ever coached," says LSU coach Gerry DiNardo. "There might be better all-around backs—I think Kevin [Faulk] is better all-around, and Tony Dorsett was better all-around—but as a pure runner Cecil is as good as there is."

Following surgery on his broken right fibula, Collins endured months of rehab, but instead of thrilling crowds at Tiger Stadium last year, "the devil gave me a ride for a while," as he puts it, "and I kind of went crazy?' On June 26, Collins was charged with unauthorized entry and sexual battery, which was later changed to simple battery. Then on July 8 he was charged with unauthorized entry. The first round of allegations, coming on the heels of LSU rules infractions that included three positive drug tests for marijuana, compelled DiNardo to kick Collins off the team the day the charges were filed. Collins then cast about for weeks in search of another Louisiana school that would have him. He ended up at Division I-AA McNeese State, only to be booted from that team on Sept. 17 after he violated a judge's order by failing another drug test.

"You want to know the truth about Cecil Collins?" says John Nagle, an assistant coach at McNeese. "He's a 22-year-old man with a 15-year-old brain. When he's on the football field, he works his butt off. But off the field he's as immature as they come."

"Cecil will need help making the transition to the NFL," says LSU running backs coach Mike Haywood. "Whatever team takes him is going to need a doctor or a counselor or a psychiatrist to work with him, or it's going to need to surround him with strong players. Otherwise—and you can count on this—Cecil is going to have problems."

In 1998 Marshall wideout Randy Moss offered a criminal past and a load of talent for the NFL to evaluate. Two years earlier Nebraska running back Lawrence Phillips was the prospect everybody loved as long as he was running the football. Is Collins pro football's next Moss, the NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year last season, or is he doomed to follow in the footsteps of Phillips, who after landing in more trouble while playing for the St. Louis Rams and the Dolphins, has been reduced to playing in NFL Europe?

"Man, I ain't nothing like that dude," Collins says of Phillips, who was taken by the Rams with the sixth pick in the 1996 draft. "I'm not going to talk about him because I don't judge no man. I'm not saying people are wrong to compare me to him, but I'm not in that category, not even close."

Collins believes that the more apt comparison is to Moss, who had an All-Pro season in '98 after slipping to the 21st pick, where he was taken by the Minnesota Vikings. "Yeah, because he showed them [that given a chance he could produce]," says Collins. "The man made a mistake—everybody makes a mistake. I remember seeing him in an interview. They asked him, on [ESPN's] Up Close, 'What do you want to do when you come in the NFL?' [Moss] was like, 'I want to come in and rip it apart.' Well, I want to rip it up too. I'm serious. But first thing, outside of football, I have to prove to people that I'm a good person."

Not all who know Collins are as confident as he is about his future, mainly because they can't reconcile his many failings with his vows to do better. "Cecil's a con artist, there isn't any doubt," says Nagle. "But he was my guy the short time he was here, and I loved him. The last thing he had to do before he left each day after practice was come see me. I'd tell him, 'You've got to be good, Cecil' He'd sit in that chair right there and say, 'You don't have to worry about me. Hey, Coach. I'm good.' "

"I think the NFL is going to make a mistake [by drafting him]," says Northwestern (La.) State coach Sam Goodwin, who turned down Collins's request to play for his team after he left LSU. "Cecil may turn out to be all that he's capable of being as a football player, but if I had to lay down a five-dollar bet, I'd say they were making a big mistake."
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Former LSU star Cecil Collins set to be released from prison

Former LSU and NFL running back Cecil Collins could be freed from prison after more than 13 years, following a Baton Rouge judge's ruling Thursday that cleared the path for him to be released on bond. 


Collins had been released from a Florida prison May 1 after his 13-and-a-half-year term for a burglary in Miami. He was then extradited to Louisiana, since he had committed the crime in Florida while on probation in Louisiana.

But Thursday, District Judge Mike Caldwell denied the prosecution's request to revoke Collins' probation and return him to prison. Prosecutors with the East Baton Rouge District Attorney's office said they plan to appeal Caldwell's decision.

Collins, whose bond was set at $25,000, could have served up to five more years if the prosecutor's request had been granted.

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Suspended LSU RB Jeremy Hill pleads guilty to simple battery

Posted: Jul 12, 2013 
Posted by WAFB Staff - email
BATON ROUGE, LA (WAFB) - Suspended LSU running back Jeremy Hill pleaded guilty Friday morning to a charge of simple battery in connection with a fight outside a bar.



Hill, 20, showed up at the 19th Judicial Courthouse with his attorney, Marcie Blaize, shortly after 9 a.m. He presented himself in front of District Court Judge Mike Erwin and apologized for his actions. Some would say he had little choice other than to plead guilty after video of him during the assault surfaced. The video shows Hill literally sneak up and cold cock the victim.

"I'll let the video speak for itself," District Attorney Hillar Moore said. "I'll let you make the judgment on the video."

Erwin lectured Hill, comparing him to another former LSU running back.


"I watched Cecil Collins play football at LSU," Erwin said. "He was the best running back in the history of LSU. He was also the dumbest. You have a chance to be the greatest, but you're going down the wrong road."
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Jeremy Hill pleads guilty


July 12, 2013   -   © 2013 Tiger Rag

LSU running back charged with simple battery in April 27 bar fight; update at bottom



Courtesy of LouisianaRadioNetwork.com

Suspended LSU running back Jeremy Hill is scheduled to appear in a Baton Rouge courtroom this morning as he’ll be arraigned on a simple battery charge. The case stems from an incident that took place outside of a Baton Rouge bar in April, where Hill allegedly punched a 20-year-old man.

“Today will be a simple process,” Legal Analyst Tim Meche said. “He’ll probably enter a plea of not guilty. The judge will set certain dates for motion hearings and a trial date. And then he’ll walk out of there.”

Hill could face some time in prison, because he was on probation for a previous criminal act when he was arrested last April. A court hearing is scheduled for August 16th to determine the status of his probation. Meche says prosecutors have already said they will seek to revoke Hill’s probation.

“The judge could decide to revoke his probation, but that doesn’t mean he’ll go to jail. The judge could extend the probation or add certain conditions to it.”

Coach Les Miles has suspended Hill from team activities, as he waits to see what happens with the legal process.

Stay tuned for updates.

9:50 a.m. update

WBRZ’s Mike Shingleton is reporting Hill plead guilty to the simple battery charge this morning.

Hill was then sentenced to 50 hours of community services, two years unsupervised probation and forced to pay $375 for victim’s medical bills. Hill must also write a letter of apology, refrain from commenting to press or posting on social media.


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  1. TigerGumbo on Your comment July 12th, 2013 12:36 pm
    I am very glad to read about Jeremy Hills court results, that he has been charged with restitution and fines, and then now still has another chance to play college football on the LSU 2013 fighting tigers football team. I believe in forgiveness and second chances. Who knows sometimes great results happen. Good luck Mr. Jeremy Hill.
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Jeremy Hill pleads guilty to battery

Updated: July 12, 2013, 1:35 PM ET
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Jeremy Hill Charged With Battery
LSU running back Jeremy Hill was charged with simple battery following an April fight, he is suspended until the case is resolvedTags: College Football, LSU Tigers, Jeremy Hill
BATON ROUGE, La. -- Suspended LSU running back Jeremy Hill has pleaded guilty to simple battery in connection with a bar fight in April in which video captured Hill punching another man in the side of the head.

Holding his thumb and forefinger close together, the judge told Hill he was "this close" to ruining a promising football career.

Hill entered the plea Friday in state district court in Baton Rouge. He will not have to go to jail for the fight, but he faces the possible revocation of the probation he was granted following a January 2012 guilty plea to a misdemeanor stemming from his sexual relationship with a then-14-year-old girl at his high school.

District Attorney Hillar Moore said it will be up to a judge to decide whether Hill should serve the suspended six-month sentence in that earlier case.

A hearing likely would be set for August. Coach Les Miles, who suspended Hill after the bar fight, was not immediately available for comment.

Hill did not comment after his arraignment. When asked by state District Judge Michael Erwin if he understood the plea his attorney, Marci Blaize, had entered on his behalf, Hill said he did, and added, "I apologize."

Prosecutors said the victim, an LSU student, did not ask for jail time. He requested only that Hill and a co-defendant in the fight, Robert Bayardo, share his $750 in medical expenses, not have any contact with him or his family and not comment publicly about the incident in any forum.

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The judge accepted those terms, handing Hill a six-month suspended sentence and two years of probation. That now overlaps with his previous six-month suspended sentence and initial two years of probation, which is due to expire in January.

Holding his thumb and forefinger close together, the judge told Hill he was "this close" to ruining a promising football career. The judge reminded Hill of the fate of Cecil Collins, who played at LSU in 1997 and whom the judge called one of the "greatest" and "dumbest" Tigers running backs of all time. Collins' once-promising career was ruined by constant trouble with the law and years of prison time.

In May, state District Judge Bonnie Jackson had placed more restrictive conditions on Hill's probation, including a 9 p.m.-6 a.m. curfew and a ban from bars. Erwin said those conditions will remain, but that he will give Hill the flexibility to stay out later than 9 p.m. when his football schedule demands it, should he be reinstated.

The judge also ordered Hill to undergo anger management counseling and perform 50 hours of community service.
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Getting ready for LSU football... streaming games on TV  (Posted on 7/11/13 at 2:53 pm)


I am out of state and want to get ready for football season. This is the only time of year I consider getting cable, but only for LSU football. So for the cost I figure a different option would be more affordable.

What is the best legit way to get the games? I do not want to mess with all the pop-up and ads on first row sports.eu.
I Want to do it legit this year. Does anyone have experience with this?

options I am considering:

Roku - with SEC digital network: does this stream every game? or one game a week. Does espn3 work with roku?

Geauxzone - Anyone use this? How do you like it? Is this on computer? Can you use roku or TV with this?

What other options are out there? Apple TV?

What options allow you to pause the game, rewind and fast-forward? Or watch later on that day?

Thanks and


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re: Getting ready for LSU football... streaming games on TV  (Posted on 7/11/13 at 11:07 pm to lsucow)


Try Justin TV
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LSU Football Team takes day off - Hits up Blue Bayou  (Posted on 7/11/13 at 3:18 pm)








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Miles didn’t participate, but Bonnette said offensive coordinator Cam Cameron, running backs coach Frank Wilson and defensive line coach Brick Haley joined the players on the slides.



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