Tinker:
The Vietnam war is hard for me to talk about because I just literally feel disgusted with the politicians and president who sent our brave military men to fight a war that the president of the United States never really tried to win in the first place.
Imagine that 50,000 American braves soldiers was sent into the jungles of Vietnam to die for a president and government who was playing political games with the American citizens then.
The Vietnam war is hard for me to talk about because I just literally feel disgusted with the politicians and president who sent our brave military men to fight a war that the president of the United States never really tried to win in the first place.
Imagine that 50,000 American braves soldiers was sent into the jungles of Vietnam to die for a president and government who was playing political games with the American citizens then.
Do you really believe that the US military couldn't beat the small country of Vietnam any time that they wanted too?
The news media was writing a lot of alarming hysteria reporting to the American people back home that the American military could not really win in the jungles of Vietnam.
So of course the politicians running Washington DC became frighten for their cushion government jobs.
And then Washington DC pulled the rug out from beneath the feet of our fighting solders in Vietnam. And the brave men came home to a class of spoiled brats, crybaby's that went so far as to spit on the solders disembarking from trains and airports around America. Calling them "baby killers." Hiding their own cowardice for not telling the truth, and afraid to fight in their country's war themselves.
The news media with the help of Hollywood started spreading the misinformation and out right propaganda of the Vietnam war to a drug infected population crying in their beers. The only people that they were lying to back then turned out to be themselves.
To
tell the rest of the worlds population that how they want to live in
their own country's is none of our business, and by the way if they need
a true friend just whistle.
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(AP) Today, April 30th, marks the 38th Anniversary of the fall of Saigon, when communist North Vietnamese forces drove tanks through the former U.S.-backed capital of South Vietnam, smashing through the Presidential Palace gates. The fall of Saigon marked the official end of the Vietnam War and the decadelong U.S. campaign against communism in Southeast Asia. The conflict claimed some 58,000 American lives and an estimated 3 million Vietnamese.
The war left divisions that would take years to heal as many former South Vietnamese soldiers were sent to Communist re-education camps and hundreds of thousands of their relatives fled the country.
In Vietnam, today is called Liberation Day and the government staged a parade down the former Reunification Boulevard that featured tank replicas and goose-stepping soldiers in white uniforms. Some 50,000 party cadres, army veterans and laborers gathered for the spectacle, many carrying red and gold Vietnamese flags and portraits of Ho Chi Minh, the father of Vietnam’s revolution. In a reminder of how the Communist Party retains a strong grip on the flow of information despite the opening of the economy, foreign journalists were forbidden from conducting interviews along the parade route. The area was sealed off from ordinary citizens, apparently due to security concerns.
The photos below offer a look back at the Vietnam War from the escalation of U.S. involvement in the early 1960′s to the Fall of Saigon in 1975.
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Photos: A Look Back at the Vietnam War on the 38th Anniversary of the Fall of Saigon
Posted Apr 30, 2010
(AP) Today, April 30th, marks the 38th Anniversary of the fall of Saigon, when communist North Vietnamese forces drove tanks through the former U.S.-backed capital of South Vietnam, smashing through the Presidential Palace gates. The fall of Saigon marked the official end of the Vietnam War and the decadelong U.S. campaign against communism in Southeast Asia. The conflict claimed some 58,000 American lives and an estimated 3 million Vietnamese.
The war left divisions that would take years to heal as many former South Vietnamese soldiers were sent to Communist re-education camps and hundreds of thousands of their relatives fled the country.
In Vietnam, today is called Liberation Day and the government staged a parade down the former Reunification Boulevard that featured tank replicas and goose-stepping soldiers in white uniforms. Some 50,000 party cadres, army veterans and laborers gathered for the spectacle, many carrying red and gold Vietnamese flags and portraits of Ho Chi Minh, the father of Vietnam’s revolution. In a reminder of how the Communist Party retains a strong grip on the flow of information despite the opening of the economy, foreign journalists were forbidden from conducting interviews along the parade route. The area was sealed off from ordinary citizens, apparently due to security concerns.
The photos below offer a look back at the Vietnam War from the escalation of U.S. involvement in the early 1960′s to the Fall of Saigon in 1975.
A
South Vietnamese soldier holds a cocked pistol as he questions two
suspected Viet Cong guerrillas captured in a weed-filled marsh in the
southern delta region late in August 1962. The prisoners were searched,
bound and questioned before being marched off to join other detainees.
(AP Photo/Horst Faas) #
A
U.S. crewman runs from a crashed CH-21 Shawnee troop helicopter near
the village of Ca Mau in the southern tip of South Vietnam, Dec. 11,
1962. Two helicopters crashed without serious injuries during a
government raid on the Viet Cong-infiltrated area. Both helicopters were
destroyed to keep them out of enemy hands. (AP Photo/Horst Faas) #
3A
Helmeted U.S. Helicopter Crewchief, holding carbine, watches ground
movements of Vietnamese troops from above during a strike against Viet
Cong Guerrillas in the Mekong Delta Area, January 2, 1963. The communist
Viet Cong claimed victory in the continuing struggle in Vietnam after
they shot down five U.S. helicopters. An American officer was killed and
three other American servicemen were injured in the action. (AP Photo) #
Caskets
containing the bodies of seven American helicopter crewmen killed in a
crash on January 11, 1963 were loaded aboard a plane on Monday, Jan. 14
for shipment home. The crewmen were on board a H21 helicopter that
crashed near a hut on an Island in the middle of one of the branches of
the Mekong River, about 55 miles Southwest of Saigon. (AP Photo) #
Flying
at dawn, just over the jungle foliage, U.S. C-123 aircraft spray
concentrated defoliant along power lines running between Saigon and
Dalat in South Vietnam, early in August 1963. The planes were flying
about 130 miles per hour over steep, hilly terrain, much of it believed
infiltrated by the Viet Cong. (AP Photo/Horst Faas) #
A
South Vietnamese Marine, severely wounded in a Viet Cong ambush, is
comforted by a comrade in a sugar cane field at Duc Hoa, about 12 miles
from Saigon, Aug. 5, 1963. A platoon of 30 Vietnamese Marines was
searching for communist guerrillas when a long burst of automatic fire
killed one Marine and wounded four others. (AP Photo/Horst Faas) #
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Tinker:
Just look at the political leaders running Washington DC today- What do they look like to you?
"Did you say TV sound bite freaks mouthing poll driven talking points for television."
"Did you say TV sound bite freaks mouthing poll driven talking points for television."
After
all if the TV shows don't have sound bite the television audience will
turn the TV channel. Because a television news show with substance
gathered from careful study is very boring to the television networks.
Television has replaced a man world, with a sound bite world.
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Republicans want to talk to Col. George Bristol about Benghazi
Marine Corps Col. George Bristol was in a key position in the U.S. Africa Command (AFRICOM) chain of command the night of the Sept. 11, 2012, attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya. As such, he's high on the list of people that some Republican members of Congress want to interview. But they don't know where he is and the Pentagon isn't telling.
Pentagon spokesman Major Robert Firman told CBS News that the Department of Defense "cannot compel retired members to testify before Congress."
"They say he's retired and they can't reach out to him," Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, told CBS News. "That's hogwash."
Play VideoBristol, a martial arts master, was commander of Joint Special Operations Task Force-Trans Sahara based in Stuttgart, Germany until he retired last March. In an article in Stars and Stripes, Bristol is quoted at his retirement ceremony as telling his troops that "an evil" has descended on Africa, referring to Islamic militant groups. "It is on us to stomp it out."
Members of Congress in both the House and Senate, including Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., have asked the Pentagon for assistance in locating Bristol so that they can question him about events the night of the terrorist attacks in Benghazi. But those efforts have come up empty.
"The Department of Defense has been entirely forthcoming on all matters related to our response to the attacks in Benghazi from the outset," said Pentagon spokesman Firman. He added that "any congressional committee can call the witnesses it needs" through subpoena, if necessary Read more...http://www.cbsnews.com/
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“We’ve managed now to alienate both sides in Egypt,”
Michele Dunne
Michele Dunne is an Atlantic Council vice president and director of the Atlantic Council's Rafik Hariri Center for the Middle East.Dr. Dunne has served in the White House on the National Security Council staff, on the State Department’s Policy Planning Staff and in its Bureau of Intelligence and Research, and as a diplomat in Cairo and Jerusalem. Prior to joining the Atlantic Council, she was a senior associate at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, where she edited the Arab Reform Bulletin and carried out research on Arab politics and US policies. She holds a doctorate in Arabic language and linguistics from Georgetown University, where she has served as a visiting professor of Arabic and Arab studies. Her research interests include Arab politics, political transitions, economic reform, Egypt, Israeli-Palestinian issues, and US and European policies in the Middle East. She cochairs the Working Group on Egypt, a bipartisan group of experts established in February 2010 to mobilize US government attention to the forces of change in that country.
Quote: “We’ve managed now to alienate both sides in Egypt,” former State Department official Michele Dunne said."
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Kerry Called Deposed Foreign Minister, Asked If He Was Still in Power
On Tuesday, Secretary of State John Kerry reportedly called his counterpart in Egypt, Mohamed Kamel Amr. He had a question: was Amr still foreign minister? Kerry didn’t know the answer. According to a report from the Wall Street Journal, Amr “had tendered his resignation hours earlier but agreed to stay on.” Kerry wanted Egyptian President Mohammed Morsi to call new presidential elections, replace the prime minister, and bring others into his government. When Morsi said no, the coup was on.
The Journal notes, “The moment served to underscore the Obama administration's limited ability to steer events in a Middle East still being swept by political upheaval. A reconstruction of how the U.S. handled Egypt in recent months suggests that U.S. officials saw the standoff building but were unable to persuade Mr. Morsi to pull back.”
Now, the United States is viewed by the Muslim Brotherhood as the force behind Morsi’s ouster, and is viewed by the Egyptian military as an obstacle to that ouster. “We’ve managed now to alienate both sides in Egypt,” former State Department official Michele Dunne said.
The Obama administration had backed Morsi because it was under the misimpression that Morsi had been the moving force behind a ceasefire between Israel and the Palestinian terrorist group Hamas. “Privately that November,” the Wall Street Journal reported, “Mr. Obama said he believed he had made a connection with Mr. Morsi.” When Morsi began curbing constitutional rights, the Obama administration did nothing, with then-White House National Security Advisor Tom Donilon toning down criticism of the regime.
On Tuesday, Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel told General Abdel Fattah Al Sisi not to initiate a coup. So much for that.
America was unclear about its relationship with Morsi, unclear about its relationship with the military, and unclear about its goals in Egypt. The result: a complete failure of America’s Egypt policy.
Ben Shapiro is Editor-At-Large of Breitbart News and author of the New York Times bestseller “Bullies: How the Left’s Culture of Fear and Intimidation Silences America” (Threshold Editions, January 8, 2013).
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ANALYSIS AIR DATE: July 1, 2013
Are Latest Protests and Ultimatum a Game-Changer for Egypt's Political System?
SUMMARY
An outpouring of dissent by millions of Egyptians prompted a threat of intervention by the Supreme Military Council. Michele Dunne of the Atlantic Council and Hussein Ibish, a Middle East commentator, join Margaret Warner to discuss the protests, the military's ultimatum and what it all means for Egypt and the United States.
MARGARET WARNER: For more on the latest protests and the military's ultimatum, we turn to Michele Dunne, director of the Atlantic Council Center for the Middle East, and Hussein Ibish, a commentator and blogger who writes a weekly column on the Middle East for "Foreign Policy" and The Daily Beast.
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Egypt closes Gaza border after clashes in Sinai
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CAIRO (AP) - An Egyptian official says the country's border crossing
with Gaza Strip in northern Sinai has been closed indefinitely, citing
security concerns.
The decision comes hours after suspected Islamic militants attacked four sites in northern Sinai, targeting two military checkpoints, a police station and el-Arish airport, where military aircraft are stationed.
The military and security forces responded to the attacks. One soldier was killed and three were wounded.
Gen. Sami el-Metwali said Rafah passage was shut down on Friday. He didn't say when it would be reopened. Some 200 Palestinians were turned back to the Gaza Strip after the order.
The
clashes came two days after the military's ouster of President Islamist
Mohammed Morsi of the Muslim Brotherhood.
The decision comes hours after suspected Islamic militants attacked four sites in northern Sinai, targeting two military checkpoints, a police station and el-Arish airport, where military aircraft are stationed.
The military and security forces responded to the attacks. One soldier was killed and three were wounded.
Gen. Sami el-Metwali said Rafah passage was shut down on Friday. He didn't say when it would be reopened. Some 200 Palestinians were turned back to the Gaza Strip after the order.
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Some Islamist elements have
pledged to fight the military's move.
THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.
Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood called for a wave of protests Friday, furious over the military's ouster of its president and arrest of its revered leader and other top figures, underlining the touchy issue of what role the fundamentalist Islamist movement might play in the new regime.
There are concerns of Islamist violence in retaliation for Mohammed Morsi's ouster, and some former militant extremists have vowed to fight.
Suspected Islamic militants opened fire at four sites in northern Sinai, targeting two military checkpoints, a police station and el-Arish airport, where military aircraft are stationed, security officials said. The military and security responded to the attacks, and one soldier was killed and three were wounded, according to security officials who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak to reporters.
The
question of the role of the Brotherhood has long been at the heart of
democracy efforts in Egypt. President Hosni Mubarak, ousted in 2011, and
previous authoritarian regimes banned the group. After Mubarak's fall,
the newly legalized group vaulted to power in elections, and its veteran
member Morsi become the country's first freely elected president.
Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood called for a wave of protests Friday, furious over the military's ouster of its president and arrest of its revered leader and other top figures, underlining the touchy issue of what role the fundamentalist Islamist movement might play in the new regime.
There are concerns of Islamist violence in retaliation for Mohammed Morsi's ouster, and some former militant extremists have vowed to fight.
Suspected Islamic militants opened fire at four sites in northern Sinai, targeting two military checkpoints, a police station and el-Arish airport, where military aircraft are stationed, security officials said. The military and security responded to the attacks, and one soldier was killed and three were wounded, according to security officials who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak to reporters.
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Now the group is reeling under a huge backlash from a public that says
the Brotherhood and its Islamist allies abused their electoral mandate.
The military forced Morsi out Wednesday after millions of Egyptians
turned out in four days of protests.
Adly Mansour, the head of the Supreme Constitutional Court, with which Morsi had repeated confrontations, was sworn in as interim president.
In his inaugural speech, broadcast nationwide, he said the anti-Morsi protests that began June 30 had "corrected the path of the glorious revolution of Jan. 25," referring to the 2011 uprising that toppled Mubarak.
The Brotherhood charged the military staged a coup against democracy and said it would not work with the new leadership. It and harder-line Islamist allies called for a wave of protests Friday, naming it the "Friday of Rage," vowing to escalate if the military does not back down.
Brotherhood
officials urged their followers to keep their protests peaceful.
Thousands of Morsi supporters remained massed in front of a Cairo mosque
where they have camped for days, with line of military armored vehicles
across the road keeping watch.
Adly Mansour, the head of the Supreme Constitutional Court, with which Morsi had repeated confrontations, was sworn in as interim president.
In his inaugural speech, broadcast nationwide, he said the anti-Morsi protests that began June 30 had "corrected the path of the glorious revolution of Jan. 25," referring to the 2011 uprising that toppled Mubarak.
The Brotherhood charged the military staged a coup against democracy and said it would not work with the new leadership. It and harder-line Islamist allies called for a wave of protests Friday, naming it the "Friday of Rage," vowing to escalate if the military does not back down.
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"We declare our complete rejection of the military coup staged against
the elected president and the will of the nation," the Brotherhood said
in a statement, read by senior cleric Abdel-Rahman el-Barr to the crowd
outside the Rabia al-Adawiya Mosque in Cairo.
"We refuse to participate in any activities with the usurping authorities," the statement said, while urging Morsi supporters to remain peaceful. The Rabia al-Adawiya protesters planned to march Friday to the Ministry of Defense.
The Brotherhood denounced the crackdown, including the shutdown Wednesday night of its television channel, Misr25, its newspaper and three pro-Morsi Islamist TV stations. The military, it said, is returning Egypt to the practices of "the dark, repressive, dictatorial and corrupt ages."Read more...http://apnews.myway.
"We refuse to participate in any activities with the usurping authorities," the statement said, while urging Morsi supporters to remain peaceful. The Rabia al-Adawiya protesters planned to march Friday to the Ministry of Defense.
The Brotherhood denounced the crackdown, including the shutdown Wednesday night of its television channel, Misr25, its newspaper and three pro-Morsi Islamist TV stations. The military, it said, is returning Egypt to the practices of "the dark, repressive, dictatorial and corrupt ages."Read more...http://apnews.myway.
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NeverRains
LSU Fan
Texas
Member since Jun 2012
606 posts
Looking back, did anyone else seriously want Les fired after '09? (Posted on 7/4/13 at 7:18 pm)
I remember watching the Capital One Bowl game in 2009 with a few friends. When the game ended, we all kind of agreed that we would give Les one more season in 2010 to prove himself as the right coach for the job.
Looking back at that now, it seems that we were all stupid and wrong, yet I still wouldn't blame us. 2008 and 2009 were tough seasons for us because I could tell we had so much talent on the team, and it really seemed like the coaches weren't doing a good job. Plus the Ole Miss game in '09 was a painful game to watch, but probably not as painful as the 2008 Ole Miss game.
Anyway, just curious if anyone else was like this too.
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RealityTiger
LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2010
9116 posts
re: Looking back, did anyone else seriously want Les fired after '09? (Posted on 7/4/13 at 7:44 pm to danfraz)
quote:Tiger Stadium was hot after that game. It was the most surreal feeling walking out.
But man I was hot after UT
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Zilla
LSU Fan
Friendswood, TX
Member since Jul 2005
9606 posts
re: Looking back, did anyone else seriously want Les fired after '09? (Posted on 7/4/13 at 7:50 pm to NeverRains)
I have seriously wanted him fired 4 or 5 different occasions... who hasn't ?
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tigerfan in bamaland
LSU Fan
Behind enemy lines
Member since Sep 2006
24693 posts
re: Looking back, did anyone else seriously want Les fired after '09? (Posted on 7/4/13 at 8:10 pm to NeverRains)
shit, some fans want him fired now.
Always outnumbered, never outgunned.
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NutHanger Farm
Member since Jun 2013
105 posts
Who was in ATL in 2007 re: Miles and LSU fans (Posted on 7/4/13 at 11:17 pm)
All this talk makes me recall, as an avid Miles supporter, that in Atlanta many many Tigers wanted to fire Miles prior to the game. I think I was at Hilton - I cant remember but it was stuffed with tigers in the Bar.
But the thing is - even after the game which we won - people still wanted to fire him.
Then......The most exciting hotel night ever. A little what what with the lady and then these late scores start rolling in... holy crap. What was it Pitt and West V both lose and we are in the Natty.
and win in Grand Style.
Only LSU fans want a coach fired 3 hours before the team is headed to the BCS NC - and then winning it.
That example says it ALL.
LSU Miles Haters will say well we backed in. BS. Well what did Bama do in 2011.
If we would applaud our coach and talk about him like Bama does it would help. The media picks up vibes from the boards now days.
Bama fans will defend Saban to the death as will LSU fans!
Saban has some bad losses and stupid decisions. and the sob is even with Miles I dont give a crap about the BS rematch.
Point is LSU fans would have:
"We need Pelini" nice.
"We need Urban" nice
It goes on and on.
Get a clue. Miles is the best coach LSU has ever had. We are 2 plays removed from being the all time dynasty in CF history - in a time where the competition is harder than it has ever been. Did you see Bama vs. ND???
Geaux Coach Miles!!!!!
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DBeaux225
New Orleans Saints Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2012
1956 posts
For any fan worried about depth and how many players we lost (Posted on 7/4/13 at 1:59 pm)
Go back and watch this game LINK
Honestly tell me how many players you knew on that years defense besides Nevis, Sheppard, and PP7 at the kick-off of that game.I remember watching that UNC game and saying "Who in the hell is #14?" and "This Brockers dude is good" not knowing that we had Mingo, Montgomery, Claiborne, and Reid on that team.
I think this year will be similar to that 2010 opener when some of these freshmen such as Brazil and Tre White step up just like the freshmen on that team did against UNC. We'll find out next month
DAMN!
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2013 football schedules (LSU, Bama, aTm) and thoughts on TCU vs LSU (Posted on 7/5/13 at 9:20 am)
I found it interesting to see that the big three in the west mostly have a bye week before they play each other. But then again, I wasn't thinking about all the hype and cash that brings in for each game. Bama vs aTm - week 3 of the season and both will probably be in the top 5. aTm plays rice and sam Houston state (basically a bye). bama plays va tech then a bye. this plays out better for aTm IMO. 2 cupcakes then bama while bama has a tough first game. if they struggle against va tech, it'll put a lot more pressure on them at a rowdy kyle field. LSU vs bama - after our early season gauntlet, we get our first much needed bye before the week 11 game (furman the week before that will help too). bama also has a bye and tennesse the week before. both teams could be coming into the game with a loss. bama could be undefeated and #1. we could be undefeated too but the media bama love will have them ranked higher. regardless it'll be the game of the week in Bryant denny. LSU vs aTm - this works out great for us. bye week, bama, bye week, at home for aTm. on the other side, they play moo state, bye then us. I love our chances in this game. depending on what happens with bama, we could be hosting espn's game day. LSU vs TCU - last but should've been first I guess (this game doesn't worry me so it's last). they lost to iowa state, texas tech (3 OT), OK state, Kansas state, Oklahoma and Michigan state. TCU won't have any idea what our offense will do and neither do we. the defense is usually ahead of the offense. But, I think les and cam will show them some new wrinkles. On the other side, they have some big boys up front but they can't handle our D line. We roll easily on national TV. TCU schedule Bama schedule aTm schedule I can't wait for this season. It could be special but it will definitely be fun. |
Tiger Voodoo
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re: 2013 football schedules (LSU, Bama, aTm) and thoughts on TCU vs LSU (Posted on 7/5/13 at 9:28 am to mooseknuckle)
My biggest problem with the schedule isn't really the East opponents or whatever, it's how that sets up the difficulty of the extended stretches of games without a bye or Non-BCS opponent.
If LSU wins the West over Bama or A&M this year, I better never hear another complaint about Les Miles again.
LSU's longest SEC stretch without a bye:
Sep. 21 Auburn - -
Sep. 28 at Georgia - -
Oct. 5 at Mississippi St. - -
Oct. 12 Florida - -
Oct. 19 at Ole Miss
Bama's longest SEC stretch without a bye:
Oct. 12 at Kentucky Lexington, Kentucky
Oct. 19 Arkansas Bryant-Denny Stadium
Oct. 26 Tennessee Bryant-Denny Stadium
A&M's longest SEC stretch without a bye:
Oct 12 at Ole Miss * Oxford, Miss. TBA
Oct 19 Auburn * Kyle Field (College Station) TBA
Oct 26 Vanderbilt * Kyle Field (College Station)
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