Tinker:
There is no deal with corruption, do it right, or we will still chose to fight:
My spirit is growing into a wild wind of sound and thunder so I'm running towards the sound of my friends calling me too come help them fight against Washington DC corrupted gatekeepers. The political establishment has been abusing the American people political power. That was our daily freedom given through sweat, sorrow, pain, and tears to us by our forefathers, in the spirit of God. I feel inspired by all the brave voices calling us to help them.
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October 15, 2013:WASHINGTON (CBSDC) — Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin believes President Barack Obama
should be impeached if he raises the debt ceiling without the backing of Congress.Video...http://washington.
In a Facebook post, Palin said Obama is “scaremongering the markets” on the prospect of default if the nation’s borrowing limit doesn’t rise by Oct. 17.
“Defaulting on our national debt is an impeachable offense, and any attempt by President Obama to unilaterally raise the debt limit without Congress is also an impeachable offense,” Palin said. “A default would also be a shameful lack of leadership, just as mindlessly increasing our debt without trying to rein in spending is a betrayal of our children
and grandchildren who will be stuck with the bill.”Boehner: ‘There Have Been No Decisions About What Exactly’ House Republicans Will Do
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell are reportedly close to striking a deal that would fund the government through Jan. 15 and raise the nation’s debt
ceiling through Feb. 15, according to CBS News. Even if the Senate does
pass this legislation, it still must be approved by the GOP-controlled
House.The Obama administration has warned of dire consequences if the U.S. defaults on its debt for the first time, claiming it will have tremendous negative impact on the global markets.
Palin says there is no way the U.S. can default if the Fourteenth Amendment — which states “the validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned” — is followed.
“We currently collect more than enough tax revenue to service our debt if we do that first. However, we don’t have enough money to continue to finance our ever-growing federal government (with our $17 trillion dollar national debt that has increased over 50% since Obama took office),” Palin stated. “That’s why President Obama wants to increase the debt limit.”
Palin, along with Sens. Ted Cruz and Mike Lee, took part in a protest at the World War II Memorial on the National Mall on Sunday.
She will be speaking at the Iowa Faith and Freedom Coalition in Des Moines, Iowa next month.
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Time for a Deal? Mitch McConnell and Harry Reid Are ‘Optimistic’ on Debt-Shutdown Agreement
“Those discussions continue, and I share (the) optimism that we’re going to get a result that will be acceptable to both sides.”
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Tinker:
All of the Washington DC wise guys marbles are falling off the game table, and the TV news media are disgusted, because the house republicans are holding tough. John Boehner can't fine 20 republicans to vote for a clean senate bill, along with 200 democrats. Ah! the best laid plans of mice and men
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WASHINGTON — President Obama on Monday made an unscheduled visit to
the Federal Emergency Management Agency in his latest bid to draw
attention to the effects of the government shutdown and to challenge
Speaker John A. Boehner’s claim that he does not have enough votes to
pass a measure to finance the government.
Mr. Boehner, appearing Sunday on the ABC News program “This Week,” said the Republican-controlled House could not pass a budget measure without provisions to limit Mr. Obama’s health insurance law. Democrats and some Republicans say that a bipartisan majority exists but that Mr. Boehner refuses to defy Tea Party conservatives.
At FEMA, Mr. Obama called on Mr. Boehner to put to a vote the Senate-passed stopgap bill to fund the government.
“The House should hold that vote today,” Mr. Obama said. “If Republicans and Speaker Boehner are saying there are not enough votes, then they should prove it. Let the bill go to the floor and let’s see what happens. Just vote. Let every member of Congress vote their conscience and they can determine whether or not they want to shut the government down. My suspicion is, my very strong suspicion is, that there are enough votes there.”
Turning up the pressure, Mr. Obama added, “The reason that Speaker Boehner hasn’t called a vote on it is because he doesn’t apparently want to see the government shutdown end at the moment, unless he’s able to extract concessions that don’t have anything to do with the budget.”
Like other federal agencies, FEMA is operating with reduced staff — 86 percent was furloughed, according to its chief, W. Craig Fugate, though some were temporarily called back to deal with storm response efforts, and the rest are working for now without pay. The agency has been busy coordinating with state and local governments to prepare for and respond to violent storms in the Midwest and Tropical Storm Karen.
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The Battle of Ganjgal remains one of the deadliest in the Afghan war.
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Mr. Boehner, appearing Sunday on the ABC News program “This Week,” said the Republican-controlled House could not pass a budget measure without provisions to limit Mr. Obama’s health insurance law. Democrats and some Republicans say that a bipartisan majority exists but that Mr. Boehner refuses to defy Tea Party conservatives.
At FEMA, Mr. Obama called on Mr. Boehner to put to a vote the Senate-passed stopgap bill to fund the government.
“The House should hold that vote today,” Mr. Obama said. “If Republicans and Speaker Boehner are saying there are not enough votes, then they should prove it. Let the bill go to the floor and let’s see what happens. Just vote. Let every member of Congress vote their conscience and they can determine whether or not they want to shut the government down. My suspicion is, my very strong suspicion is, that there are enough votes there.”
Turning up the pressure, Mr. Obama added, “The reason that Speaker Boehner hasn’t called a vote on it is because he doesn’t apparently want to see the government shutdown end at the moment, unless he’s able to extract concessions that don’t have anything to do with the budget.”
Like other federal agencies, FEMA is operating with reduced staff — 86 percent was furloughed, according to its chief, W. Craig Fugate, though some were temporarily called back to deal with storm response efforts, and the rest are working for now without pay. The agency has been busy coordinating with state and local governments to prepare for and respond to violent storms in the Midwest and Tropical Storm Karen.
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Senate Budget Deal Takes Shape, Facing Tough Odds To Avert Default
Posted: 10/14/2013
WASHINGTON -- Whatever deal emerges from overnight
negotiations in the Senate, Republican lawmakers said they weren't sure
it could pass quickly enough in their chamber to avert a default -- or
that it would ever see the light of day in the House.
The Treasury Department has warned that sometime on Thursday it may no longer have enough cash on hand to pay all the nation's obligations, setting up a potential default that economists have warned repeatedly may have catastrophic economic consequences.
As of Monday evening, the contours of a deal included reopening the government through Jan. 15 and extending the debt limit until Feb. 15. Both chambers also would have to appoint representatives for a budget conference that would end on or around Dec. 15, with the goal of agreeing to framework for deficit-reduction. Changes to President Barack Obama's health care law would be minimal: Democrats would get a delay of a reinsurance tax to benefit unions, while Republicans would get income verification for Obamacare exchanges.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said there had been "tremendous progress" earlier in the day. His Republican counterpart, Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.), agreed.
But in order for the measure to pass in the Senate quickly, it would require unanimous consent. That would include the approval of Sens. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) and Mike Lee (R-Utah), leaders in picking a fight over Obamacare who have objected repeatedly to holding a conference on the budget that might have resolved the debt fight.
Cruz, cornered by a crowd of reporters outside of a closed elevator door Monday, declined to say what he thought of the deal.
"We'll have to wait to see what the details are," Cruz said at least nine times.
His colleagues said they hoped Cruz and his allies would not object if the a measure hits the Senate floor.
"I think it'd be very tough for somebody to stand up just on procedural grounds just to hold it up at this stage in the game. I would hope that's not the case, but that's always a concern," said Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.), who supports the deal.
Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) didn't say if he'd vote for something along the lines of what's taking shape in the Senate talks. He thought it would pass the Senate, ultimately, but not necessarily quickly.
"It looks to me like it would be difficult to get" unanimous consent, Grassley told reporters. "But if this is a thing that's put together enough, except for going through the process of cloture, you're going to get this through the Senate, would be my guess."
But the Senate likely is not the biggest problem in ending the standoff. The House has repeatedly retreated from attempts to pass measures that would keep the wheels of government grinding, opting for confrontations. Republicans there balked, for instance, at a short-term "continuing resolution" that would have kept government open until mid-November and removed at least that crisis while legislators slugged it out over debt.
"They obviously couldn't pass a clean C.R. until Nov. 15, so I think John's going to have a difficult time irrespective of what the measure is," said Sen. Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.) of his friend, House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio).
Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.), who has been in the thick of bipartisan talks in the Senate, said he thought that whatever the Senate does, it likely will be the House that takes the decisive steps, for both procedural reasons and because its members need time to wrap their minds around a staggering defeat.
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----------------The Treasury Department has warned that sometime on Thursday it may no longer have enough cash on hand to pay all the nation's obligations, setting up a potential default that economists have warned repeatedly may have catastrophic economic consequences.
As of Monday evening, the contours of a deal included reopening the government through Jan. 15 and extending the debt limit until Feb. 15. Both chambers also would have to appoint representatives for a budget conference that would end on or around Dec. 15, with the goal of agreeing to framework for deficit-reduction. Changes to President Barack Obama's health care law would be minimal: Democrats would get a delay of a reinsurance tax to benefit unions, while Republicans would get income verification for Obamacare exchanges.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said there had been "tremendous progress" earlier in the day. His Republican counterpart, Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.), agreed.
But in order for the measure to pass in the Senate quickly, it would require unanimous consent. That would include the approval of Sens. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) and Mike Lee (R-Utah), leaders in picking a fight over Obamacare who have objected repeatedly to holding a conference on the budget that might have resolved the debt fight.
Cruz, cornered by a crowd of reporters outside of a closed elevator door Monday, declined to say what he thought of the deal.
"We'll have to wait to see what the details are," Cruz said at least nine times.
His colleagues said they hoped Cruz and his allies would not object if the a measure hits the Senate floor.
"I think it'd be very tough for somebody to stand up just on procedural grounds just to hold it up at this stage in the game. I would hope that's not the case, but that's always a concern," said Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.), who supports the deal.
Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) didn't say if he'd vote for something along the lines of what's taking shape in the Senate talks. He thought it would pass the Senate, ultimately, but not necessarily quickly.
"It looks to me like it would be difficult to get" unanimous consent, Grassley told reporters. "But if this is a thing that's put together enough, except for going through the process of cloture, you're going to get this through the Senate, would be my guess."
But the Senate likely is not the biggest problem in ending the standoff. The House has repeatedly retreated from attempts to pass measures that would keep the wheels of government grinding, opting for confrontations. Republicans there balked, for instance, at a short-term "continuing resolution" that would have kept government open until mid-November and removed at least that crisis while legislators slugged it out over debt.
"They obviously couldn't pass a clean C.R. until Nov. 15, so I think John's going to have a difficult time irrespective of what the measure is," said Sen. Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.) of his friend, House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio).
Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.), who has been in the thick of bipartisan talks in the Senate, said he thought that whatever the Senate does, it likely will be the House that takes the decisive steps, for both procedural reasons and because its members need time to wrap their minds around a staggering defeat.
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Former Army Capt. William Swenson to receive Medal of Honor at White House
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The Battle of Ganjgal remains one of the deadliest in the Afghan war.
Yet William Swenson, a former captain in the U.S. Army, managed to help
fend off an onslaught of insurgents, saved lives, coordinated a rescue,
and braved gunfire to retrieve fallen soldiers. This is his story...http://www.By David Nakamura, Tuesday, October 15, 7:13 AM E-mail the writer
It was a tender moment that
demonstrates the brotherhood of the U.S. servicemen who fought for their
lives in a remote Afghanistan province four years ago. But former Army
Capt. William Swenson said he does not recall the brief kiss he laid on
the head of his severely wounded partner that day.
The video, recorded on the shaky helmet camera of a Medevac crewman, captured the kiss without the soldiers’ knowledge. There is Swenson, helping Sgt. 1st Class Kenneth Westbrook into the rescue helicopter, two hours into a firefight against heavily armed Taliban insurgents in the Ganjgal valley and after Westbrook was shot through the mouth and shoulder. Wearing wrap-around sunglasses but no helmet, Swenson kisses the top of Westbrook’s head and pats him on the shoulder before returning to the battle.
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-------------------The video, recorded on the shaky helmet camera of a Medevac crewman, captured the kiss without the soldiers’ knowledge. There is Swenson, helping Sgt. 1st Class Kenneth Westbrook into the rescue helicopter, two hours into a firefight against heavily armed Taliban insurgents in the Ganjgal valley and after Westbrook was shot through the mouth and shoulder. Wearing wrap-around sunglasses but no helmet, Swenson kisses the top of Westbrook’s head and pats him on the shoulder before returning to the battle.
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Report: NSA Collects Millions of Contact Lists From Personal Email and Instant Messaging Accounts Globally
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College football's midseason arrived with a crescendo. Let's look back at the best (and worst) so far. On The Mark » Blogs: Midseason conference reports » Blogs: Top-10 players » Nation blog »AP Photo
- Sooners' top DT Phillips (back) out for '13
- Nebraska, Oregon to play 2016, '17 series
- Razorbacks AD Long to chair Playoff panel
- Florida RB Jones done after knee surgery
- Hokies-Vols in Bristol: 'As big as anything'
- Badgers WR Abbrederis uncertain vs. Illini
- Hogs DT Thomas has surgery on broken leg
- Texas names advisory panel for AD search
- Man, 39, charged with gifting $725 to player
- Georgia recruiting director suspended 5 days
- SEC puts record 8 teams in AP Top 25
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- Kiper/McShay: One-loss teams with title shot
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LSU Football - Geaux Tigers!!!
| Tuesday, October 15, 2013 | |
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| The Advocate | Improving LSU seeks complete game |
| The Advocate | Notes: Mettenberger says he has shin bruise |
| Times Picayune | Notes: LSU's offensive line saw Florida as a personal challenge |
| Tiger Rag | Notes: LSU defense hopes to stay on a roll |
| ESPN Blog | Midseason report: LSU |
| LSU Reveille | LSU defense feeds off Chavis' energy |
| LSU Reveille | Les Miles discusses rivalry, history with Ole Miss |
| LSU Reveille | LSU better versus Ole Miss on the road |
| NBC33 | LSU football and the ‘Earthquake’ at Tiger Stadium event |
| LA Gannett News *1 | Guilbeau: LSU had ax to grind against Florida |
| Biloxi Sun Herald | Battered Ole Miss defense readies for LSU |
| Daily Journal, MS | Ole Miss Notes: Freeze on outburst: ‘Wish I had been more composed’ |
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Dandy Don's LSU Sports Report
The LSU football team is busy preparing to hit the road for the third time in four weeks on Saturday when the No. 6/8 Tigers travel to Oxford to face Ole Miss. Kickoff is scheduled for 6 p.m. CT and the game will be televised by ESPN2. LSU is coming off of a very big win over Florida, while Ole Miss is coming off a last-second 41-38 setback to Texas A&M last week. The Rebels gave the Aggies all they could handle and almost came away with a big upset, but instead they came away with a heart-breaking loss and a couple of big injuries. Ole Miss lost linebacker Serderius Bryant, who was recently added to the Bednarek Award list, to a head injury, and also lost freshman sensation defensive end Robert Nkemdiche to a hamstring injury.
Speaking of injuries, Coach Les Miles addressed the media yesterday for his weekly press luncheon and gave an update on Tahj Jones, Ronald Martin and Jordan Allen. LSU also released this week’s Game Note yesterday and it is filled with impressive stats. Below are a few of those stats, along with a few key comments from Coach Miles’ presser.
From the Lunch with Les Press Conference: (Please click here to read the entire transcript.)
• Coach Miles described Jordan Allen’s injury as a “small tweak” to his ankle and said he will be available to play this Saturday.
• Ronald Martin “had a nick” but should be ready to go this weekend. However, Miles was complimentary of Craig Loston and Corey Thompson as safeties.
• As for Tahj Jones, Miles called him a “healing guy” and said he's hopeful Jones will be ready this week.
• Miles complimented the play of Christian LaCouture, saying he’s getting better and better.
• Miles commented on Kendell Beckwith, saying “We'd like to get Kendell Beckwith on the field. We think he'll be a great LB, and he can be a very talented DE.”
From the weekly Game Notes:
• QB Zach Mettenberger leads the SEC in pass efficiency with a 184.1 rating as he’s connected on 116-of-174 passes for 1,890 yards, 15 TDs and just two interceptions.
• Despite his lowest output of the season on Saturday, Zach Mettenberger is still on school-record pace with 1,890 passing yards and 15 TDs through seven games.
• RB Jeremy Hill leads the SEC in rushing TDs with 9 and he’s second in the league with 119.2 rushing yards per game.
• LSU’s defense has allowed just 3 field goals in its last six quarters of action (1 vs. Mississippi State, 2 vs. Florida).
• LSU has played 14 true freshmen so far this season. The 14 true freshmen rank as the nation’s third-highest total, trailing Texas A&M (17) and UCLA (16). In nine years under Les Miles, LSU has sent a total of 87 true freshmen to the field.
In other football news, hats off to LSU sophomore defensive end Danielle Hunter for being named SEC Defensive Lineman of the Week after his performance against Florida. Hunter was credited with seven tackles, one tackle for loss and two pass breakups in the 17-6 win. As a team, LSU racked up a season-best four sacks and eight tackles for loss.
In basketball news, Coach Johnny Jones picked up two commitments in two days, including one from the 4th rated prospect in the nation for 2015, Ben Simmons. The other prospect who committed is Simmon's teammate at Montverde Academy, 2014 point guard Jaylen Patterson. Both players visited LSU last weekend for the Florida football game. Patterson, a 6-foot point guard known as a great shooter, is one of three LSU commitments for 2014. Simmons, a 6-9, 230-pound power forward, is Coach Johnny Jones’s first commitment for 2015 and perhaps the biggest commitment Jones has secured in his tenure at LSU. Originally from Melborne, Austrailia, Simmons came to the U.S. in January to play the remainder of his high school ball at Montverde. Simmons connection to LSU is through his godfather, David Patrick, who is an assistant coach for LSU. Simmons chose LSU over offers from several of the nations’s top basketball programs including Kentucky, Duke and Kansas. Here’s Simmon's very impressive highlights video. With Jerrel Martin for 2013, Elbert Robison for 2014, and now Simmons for 2015, Coach Johnny Jones has really established himself as a truly elite recruiter and the future of LSU basketball looks extremely bright.
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NOTEBOOK: LSU defense hopes to stay on a roll
10/14/2013 7:01:05 PM
By LUKE JOHNSON
Tiger Rag Associate Editor
The Tigers’ defense quelled some of the anxiety that’s built up throughout the season when it roared back to life in a spirited 17-6 win against Florida last Saturday.
"Tremendous effort,” said LSU coach Les Miles about his defensive unit’s performance at his weekly press luncheon. "Any time that you line up against a big, powerful offensive line and running backs that can run and a mobile quarterback, you have to control that line of scrimmage. Our guys did as strong a job as they well could have done, and I think the game plan was just right.
"I thought Chief (defensive coordinator John Chavis) had a magnificent plan, did the things we needed to do to win.”
Indeed he did, and indeed they did. The Tigers extended their steak of keeping their opponents out of the endzone to six quarters by playing a suffocating brand of football against an offense that simply was not prepared for it. LSU got after the passer and squeezed the life out of the Gators’ run game in what was easily its best performance of the season.
But can it keep it up against Ole Miss’ up-tempo spread offensive attack this coming Saturday?
The Rebels are coming off a heartbreaking 41-38 loss against No. 7 Texas A&M, during which they racked up 462 yards of total offense. Their offense is the type that has given LSU fits this season.
It all starts with quarterback Bo Wallace, who is taking better care of the football this year after throwing for 17 interceptions in his first year as a starter at Ole Miss. Through six games this season, Wallace has a 9:3 touchdown to interception ratio.
"I think with age he's developing very well,” Miles said. "He's always had kind of a really live arm, and he makes‑‑ I think he always makes really good decisions. Just with a little bit more age you make those decisions more comfortably, and it comes out of your hand in a right fashion.”
While Wallace takes the majority of the snaps under center, the Rebels also use a backup Barry Brunetti in several packages. Brunetti is considered probable for the LSU game after suffering a minor injury against the Aggies last weekend
INJURY UPDATE
Junior defensive end Jordan Allen, who had to leave the field against Florida with an ankle injury, should be able to resume practice at some point this week. Miles said he anticipated him being ready for the Ole Miss game. The same can be said for junior safety Ronald Martin, who dressed out for the Florida game but did not play.
As far as senior outside linebacker Tahj Jones is considered, however, things get a little murkier. Miles has been saying for several weeks now that Jones should be ready to resume playing, but Jones didn’t travel with the team to Georgia or Mississippi State and was not dressed against Florida. Miles didn’t change his tune on Monday.
"Tahj is a healing guy,” Miles said. "He had a very, very minor setback.We're going to try him again this week. We're hopeful that he can be ready this week.”
Highly-touted freshman defensive end Robert Nkemdiche will not play this Saturday for the Rebels.
HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!
Before Miles could get into any of the totally useless information on, you know, what happened last Saturday and who he expects to be available and what he expects to happen on this coming Saturday, he had an important message for his audience.
"Just want to remind everybody that it's Columbus Day, that all those of you that know Italians and like Italians or that might venture onto a ship and travel to explore and find new lands, this is your day,” Miles said.
"It's not St.Paddy's Day.That's a different day entirely.”
All the explorers out there, tip your fancy Italian sailing hat to the man with the super-structured cap.
NOT SO CROWDED
While Miles wouldn’t go as far to say he was displeased with the turnout in Tiger Stadium for the matchup between two top-20 teams, he pointed out that he saw the absences in the crowd from his point of view.
He was unsolicited for this little tidbit. When prodded, Miles elaborated on what he meant.
"We go into Tiger Stadium and have never been disappointed, period,” Miles said."It's as live a venue as there is, and we're happy about it.But it did appear that some of our faithful stayed out of the heat and kind of stayed in the air‑conditioning at the beginning of the game.”
There were perhaps as many as 10,000 empty seats when the game kicked off, and the crowd thinned as the game wore on.
Perhaps it was in part to an unusually warm afternoon that saw temperatures creep into the 90s. Perhaps it was a result of some unusually crowded areas at the ticketing gates in the minutes before the game. Perhaps it was a combination of those and other factors.
Though his tone sounded as though it might have had a hint of sarcasm in it, Miles said he understood and still thought the crowd was able to generate the type of environment that made things difficult on Florida’s offense.
"The only thing I would say is I'm with them,” Miles said. "If it's hot for them, then they need to stay in the air‑conditioning. But only if it has to do with health, okay.It's hot out there for us, too. Let's come on out and let's make some noise. But again, I thought the venue, I thought the stadium was very live.”
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10/15/2013 10:22:23 AM
I'm very encouraged at the way I saw the LSU defensive players play Saturday.
Florida offense was not all that lacking in LSU tiger stadium last Saturday because the Florida gator QB was a very athletic football player. That he was not a New England Tom Brady type Quarterback is still not that distracting from the way the LSU tigers improved their defensive ability, holding the Florida Gator offense too only two field goals. Florida offense was punchless because of the LSU defense, not because of the Florida gators lack of athletic ability, or desire. If LSU QB had a sharper passing day LSU would have widen the score difference, Florida did the best they could. LSU just beat them with defense, 17 to 6 - Final I can see again. |
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WORSHAM: When will Saban be welcome at LSU?
10/15/2013 8:58:10 AM
By CODY WORSHAM
Tiger Rag Editor
Nick Saban is sorry.
Not for leaving LSU nearly nine years ago, although he’s since expressed remorse for the manner of his departure.
"I regretted when I left LSU,” Saban said on Dan Le Batard’s radio show in 2012, "because I left a lot of relationships there…I think the biggest thing was probably not handling the way I left very well. That’s always been a thing with me that I’ve never felt good about it.”
As much as his modus relinquendi has bothered him since, it’s Saban’s inability to return to Baton Rouge he’s ruing this week.
While Saban spent Saturday with his current Alabama team trouncing Kentucky in Lexington, taking another step toward Tide title number four in five seasons, his 2003 LSU team gathered in Baton Rouge to celebrate the 10-year anniversary of their 2003 national championship.
Much to Saban’s chagrin.
"I’m actually sorry I can’t be there,” Saban said during last week’s SEC coaches’ teleconference. "I’d love to see all those guys.”
Saban said that 2003 team holds a dear spot in his heart because of the circumstances they faced when they decided to come to LSU. The Tigers were 3-8 in 1999, the year before Saban arrived in Baton Rouge, and the nucleus of the ’03 championship team came from the recruiting classes following the ’99 and 2000 seasons, who pledged to the program when it was at its nadir.
"That being our first national championship team and a bunch of guys that came to LSU at that time when we weren’t really good,” Saban said, "you even have more love in your heart for them for believing and trusting in the program.”
That love, belief and trust served as the foundation for that 2003 title, yet just ten years later, the love, belief, and trust – at least among Tiger fans – are all long since gone, so much so that Saban couldn’t be honored alongside his team. Instead, he sent a video for his players to watch privately at a Friday night gathering.
"I say play the video for everybody on the scoreboard,” Justin Vincent, the SEC and BCS title game MVP in 2003 who now serves on the LSU staff, told Gannett Sports last week. "Nick Saban was our head coach. He’s always been very grateful to that team and has always had a lot of respect for the LSU program. He talks a lot about how much his wife Terry loved it at LSU. But I understand the fans being upset if they played the video in the stadium.”
"I don’t think the fans understand,” Vincent added. "If anyone has a right to be upset with Coach Saban, we do – the players. He left us. But I understand it was a business decision that he made for he and his family. He wanted to go to the NFL. Obviously, it didn’t work out, and he came back to college.”
Saban said LSU extended an invitation to the reunion, which he obviously had to decline, but he knows as well as I do it was a facade. LSU did not want Saban in Baton Rouge to celebrate with his team on Saturday, in person or in HD programming, nor did Saban want to be on the receiving end of a vulgar display of disapproval from the LSU fans.
LSU’s invitation wasn’t sincere, and neither was Saban’s subsequent expression of remorse. Both were affectations. It was like inviting Santa Claus over on Christmas Eve: he’s got plans, and you’d prefer he not eat all your cookies, anyway.
Of course, the reason football’s St. Nick wasn’t welcome to campus this past weekend is because he’s on LSU’s naughty list. For one, he lied – about leaving LSU for Miami, and about leaving Miami for Alabama.
But LSU fans can forgive a fib. It’s basically mandatory practice when your coach is Les Miles, who admitted in his first ever press conference in purple and gold to being "somewhat deceitful.”
And before he took the Alabama job, Saban was welcomed back warmly to Tiger Stadium on October 30, 2005, when his Dolphins beat the displaced Saints. Saban took the field to mostly cheers – with a few boos mixed in – but left the field to primarily applause and with a smile on his face.
"It's been wonderful,” he said afterward. "I really do feel like this was coming home to play a game and it was exciting for me even though I didn't say it [earlier],” Saban said. "It was exciting to be back in Tiger Stadium and I feel really great that our team did a nice job to make us proud of how they played.”
No, the lies, LSU could forgive. The losses, they cannot. It’s not Saban’s fibs to LSU fans, but his victories over them – and the measures he’s taken to achieve those victories – that are unforgiveable.
He didn’t just leave LSU on dishonest terms; three years later, he took a job with a bitter rival. Since, he’s also pillaged some top-priority state prospects, and twice left Louisiana victorious in games that either officially (2011) or unofficially (2012) decided national championships.
Well-documented allegations of Tide players being paid while in school and a smattering of other NCAA violations for Bama under Saban don’t help matters, either.
In other words, he’s brought this upon himself.
Which is why LSU bears no burden of forgiveness. LSU doesn’t have to welcome Saban back with a warm embrace any time soon. However, this past Saban-less weekend was a reminder that the cold shoulder has been cold for quite a while.
Not that Saban cares.
"I would absolutely go,” Saban said. "I have a tremendous amount of respect for all the players that were on the team and what they accomplished. I was really proud to be a part of it.”
That would have required LSU to pick a day when it had a home game and Alabama was off. There’s only one date that would have worked this season, and it actually would have been perfect: LSU’s September 7th home opener against UAB.
That date would have made everyone happy. The players who played for Saban and the fans who appreciate his impact could have enjoyed his presence, while the fans who loathe him could have taunted him for the most embarrassing defeat of his tenure, a 13-10 loss in 2000 to – who else? – UAB.
Jokes aside, it raises an interesting question: when, if ever, will Saban be welcome back to LSU to celebrate his successes?
I’d like to think it’s possible, some day when his professional objective isn’t to beat LSU every year. Despite the current conflicts of interest between Saban and LSU, the 2003 team – the whole 2003 team – deserves a chance to celebrate and be honored together in front of their fans.
After all, it was those Tigers who played their hearts out for Saban and the LSU fans; who restored a fallen program under Saban; who forgave him for leaving; but most of all, who stood with Saban on January 4, 2004 and held the crystal ball as high as they could, as if to say, "We are LSU. We are back. And we aren’t going anywhere.”
Ten years later, those words still ring true. Saban left, and so did the players, but LSU football hasn’t gone anywhere. That’s a credit to a lot of people, not the least of whom is Saban.
Which means, at some point, LSU fans are going to have to forgive the guy – or at least learn to tolerate him.
Otherwise, things might be awkward in ten more years, when Saban celebrates the title’s platinum anniversary with his players in Tiger Stadium.
Assuming, of course, he doesn’t have a game that night.
commentsTiger Rag Editor
Nick Saban is sorry.
Not for leaving LSU nearly nine years ago, although he’s since expressed remorse for the manner of his departure.
"I regretted when I left LSU,” Saban said on Dan Le Batard’s radio show in 2012, "because I left a lot of relationships there…I think the biggest thing was probably not handling the way I left very well. That’s always been a thing with me that I’ve never felt good about it.”
As much as his modus relinquendi has bothered him since, it’s Saban’s inability to return to Baton Rouge he’s ruing this week.
While Saban spent Saturday with his current Alabama team trouncing Kentucky in Lexington, taking another step toward Tide title number four in five seasons, his 2003 LSU team gathered in Baton Rouge to celebrate the 10-year anniversary of their 2003 national championship.
Much to Saban’s chagrin.
"I’m actually sorry I can’t be there,” Saban said during last week’s SEC coaches’ teleconference. "I’d love to see all those guys.”
Saban said that 2003 team holds a dear spot in his heart because of the circumstances they faced when they decided to come to LSU. The Tigers were 3-8 in 1999, the year before Saban arrived in Baton Rouge, and the nucleus of the ’03 championship team came from the recruiting classes following the ’99 and 2000 seasons, who pledged to the program when it was at its nadir.
"That being our first national championship team and a bunch of guys that came to LSU at that time when we weren’t really good,” Saban said, "you even have more love in your heart for them for believing and trusting in the program.”
That love, belief and trust served as the foundation for that 2003 title, yet just ten years later, the love, belief, and trust – at least among Tiger fans – are all long since gone, so much so that Saban couldn’t be honored alongside his team. Instead, he sent a video for his players to watch privately at a Friday night gathering.
"I say play the video for everybody on the scoreboard,” Justin Vincent, the SEC and BCS title game MVP in 2003 who now serves on the LSU staff, told Gannett Sports last week. "Nick Saban was our head coach. He’s always been very grateful to that team and has always had a lot of respect for the LSU program. He talks a lot about how much his wife Terry loved it at LSU. But I understand the fans being upset if they played the video in the stadium.”
"I don’t think the fans understand,” Vincent added. "If anyone has a right to be upset with Coach Saban, we do – the players. He left us. But I understand it was a business decision that he made for he and his family. He wanted to go to the NFL. Obviously, it didn’t work out, and he came back to college.”
Saban said LSU extended an invitation to the reunion, which he obviously had to decline, but he knows as well as I do it was a facade. LSU did not want Saban in Baton Rouge to celebrate with his team on Saturday, in person or in HD programming, nor did Saban want to be on the receiving end of a vulgar display of disapproval from the LSU fans.
LSU’s invitation wasn’t sincere, and neither was Saban’s subsequent expression of remorse. Both were affectations. It was like inviting Santa Claus over on Christmas Eve: he’s got plans, and you’d prefer he not eat all your cookies, anyway.
Of course, the reason football’s St. Nick wasn’t welcome to campus this past weekend is because he’s on LSU’s naughty list. For one, he lied – about leaving LSU for Miami, and about leaving Miami for Alabama.
But LSU fans can forgive a fib. It’s basically mandatory practice when your coach is Les Miles, who admitted in his first ever press conference in purple and gold to being "somewhat deceitful.”
And before he took the Alabama job, Saban was welcomed back warmly to Tiger Stadium on October 30, 2005, when his Dolphins beat the displaced Saints. Saban took the field to mostly cheers – with a few boos mixed in – but left the field to primarily applause and with a smile on his face.
"It's been wonderful,” he said afterward. "I really do feel like this was coming home to play a game and it was exciting for me even though I didn't say it [earlier],” Saban said. "It was exciting to be back in Tiger Stadium and I feel really great that our team did a nice job to make us proud of how they played.”
No, the lies, LSU could forgive. The losses, they cannot. It’s not Saban’s fibs to LSU fans, but his victories over them – and the measures he’s taken to achieve those victories – that are unforgiveable.
He didn’t just leave LSU on dishonest terms; three years later, he took a job with a bitter rival. Since, he’s also pillaged some top-priority state prospects, and twice left Louisiana victorious in games that either officially (2011) or unofficially (2012) decided national championships.
Well-documented allegations of Tide players being paid while in school and a smattering of other NCAA violations for Bama under Saban don’t help matters, either.
In other words, he’s brought this upon himself.
Which is why LSU bears no burden of forgiveness. LSU doesn’t have to welcome Saban back with a warm embrace any time soon. However, this past Saban-less weekend was a reminder that the cold shoulder has been cold for quite a while.
Not that Saban cares.
"I would absolutely go,” Saban said. "I have a tremendous amount of respect for all the players that were on the team and what they accomplished. I was really proud to be a part of it.”
That would have required LSU to pick a day when it had a home game and Alabama was off. There’s only one date that would have worked this season, and it actually would have been perfect: LSU’s September 7th home opener against UAB.
That date would have made everyone happy. The players who played for Saban and the fans who appreciate his impact could have enjoyed his presence, while the fans who loathe him could have taunted him for the most embarrassing defeat of his tenure, a 13-10 loss in 2000 to – who else? – UAB.
Jokes aside, it raises an interesting question: when, if ever, will Saban be welcome back to LSU to celebrate his successes?
I’d like to think it’s possible, some day when his professional objective isn’t to beat LSU every year. Despite the current conflicts of interest between Saban and LSU, the 2003 team – the whole 2003 team – deserves a chance to celebrate and be honored together in front of their fans.
After all, it was those Tigers who played their hearts out for Saban and the LSU fans; who restored a fallen program under Saban; who forgave him for leaving; but most of all, who stood with Saban on January 4, 2004 and held the crystal ball as high as they could, as if to say, "We are LSU. We are back. And we aren’t going anywhere.”
Ten years later, those words still ring true. Saban left, and so did the players, but LSU football hasn’t gone anywhere. That’s a credit to a lot of people, not the least of whom is Saban.
Which means, at some point, LSU fans are going to have to forgive the guy – or at least learn to tolerate him.
Otherwise, things might be awkward in ten more years, when Saban celebrates the title’s platinum anniversary with his players in Tiger Stadium.
Assuming, of course, he doesn’t have a game that night.
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10/15/2013
10/15/2013
Saban is simply the old kind of tiger football news that seems
to drift off into history with out much else to think about it. That
what hurt our feeling over losing Saban to the NFL then, is dot so much
felt today. LSU treated Nick Saban very good in those days, so we should
be proud of our LSU memory about the time Saban coach us.
I would rather be us ( the LSU family) then recalling those years like Saban remembers them. We were sincere, loyal, and we bitterly learned that he was not.
Money is not everything.I would rather be us ( the LSU family) then recalling those years like Saban remembers them. We were sincere, loyal, and we bitterly learned that he was not.
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