By Tinker Town:
The man that can't stop selling the lie about what he can do for a living. The snake oil salesman, Les Miles. Because if he does stops lying. The town folks will hang him after finding out that he has been playing them for a bunch of suckers.
Hanging around Bo Schembechler at Michigan. Gave the limited talented lineman Les Miles a idea that this coaching college football business could become a good hustle. So that just what he did with his time and person. Telling everyone close to him that he is a college football coach. When in fact, he can't coach college football at all.
But nothing more than another hang around hustler trying to strike it rich. For however long of a piece of time that he can.
Say hello LSU, can you make me rich?
Oh the shame of falling for a joker like that. The terrible disgrace that attaches to people that keep lying to themselves. Somehow Les Miles spread his lie on everyone he speaks to. Bamboozling them into going along with this money making scheme and tricking them into going along with this money making story of lie's. Trying to fly high if only for a little while. Until of course they all get caught and finally must pay the piper. Spending the rest of their time covering up the scam.
Wow, what a sad development for the LSU football program. Losing Nick Saban to the NFL and then Alabama, only to go and hire the Les Miles get rich quick trickster. Oh god, the truth does hurt. I guess that is why no one running Louisiana State University really wants to tell it?
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Les Miles likes state of LSU football program
By LES EAST
Advocate sportswriter
January 10, 2013
Advocate sportswriter
January 10, 2013
Nearly every day in the last week has brought news of one or more
LSU football players choosing to leave the program early for the NFL.
The record number of early departures — 10 from this year’s team, 11 if you count former All-America cornerback Tyrann Mathieu, who was kicked off the team in August — came on the heels of a last-second 25-24 loss to Clemson in the Chick-fil-A Bowl at the end of a disappointing 10-3 season.
Throw in the still-not-forgotten 21-0 flop against Alabama in the 2011 BCS Championship Game and even though it has barely been a year the Tigers completed an historic 13-0 regular season, it’s easy for their fans to wonder if one of the elite football programs in the country has suddenly gotten off track or might be headed in the wrong direction.
Head coach Les Miles sat down with The Advocate on Thursday to discuss the state of the program, the early departures, recruiting, this past season and other topics.
Here’s a transcript from the interview:
Miles: First of all, we recruit guys who specifically want to get a degree, want to be trained to play championship college football that would then also train them to play a pro style — offense, defense, special teams — and be able to showcase their abilities and go on to the NFL.
I think that that is a very logical transition for our guys. I think it’s an unbelievable number of juniors that leave. I think it speaks to the style of recruiting that we’ve had and I think it also speaks to the style of development and capabilities that these guys have.
I think each guy’s situation is completely different, specific to them and them only. The decision is truly theirs and not mine. I give them as much information as I possibly can and then systematically I support that decision, some with a very, very open opinion and a very strong opinion. But then, once the decision is made, it’s their decision and it’s their responsibility.
I think it’s kind of a unique thing in the fact that I think this will be a record of sorts for juniors coming out early. I think there are several different mechanisms going on here. I can tell you some of the reasons. Some of them are all based differently but I think by and large the decisions that were made were very understandable and we wish them the very best.
I think some guys are looking forward to having great and long pro careers and some guys are trying to optimize a lower position in a draft spot and maximize the number of years they get to be there. It’s an interesting thing. All of these guys, each guy, has a goal to play in the NFL. Irrespective of whether you’re the style of guy that can go in the first 10 picks or you’re the style of guy that’s going to go mid rounds to late but it’s been the goal of mine to be an NFL player and you know what? A lot of our guys get a chance to play in that league.
I think there’s a smart and orderly direction to a quality decision that a lot of our guys have gone through. It’s difficult to put the right round to leave early for. Some guys think they may never be most optimally positioned for the NFL and this may be the best that they’ve got. It may be bad but they think it’s the best that they have. That being said, we’ve described their scenarios as best we can and it’s really their decision. It really is.
I don’t think there’s any question that irrespective of what happened to Ty that he was probably going to be out this year anyway. It just falls into that number. I make the point that a degree is awfully important and you give nothing up, you’re still going to have the same marketability to the NFL that you have this year plus you have your degree, especially those late-round guys.
I also say that frankly I don’t want to give a deal to the NFL. I think that certain guys that leave early take the opportunity this time as opposed to positioning yourself in the NFL draft at a higher level sometimes costs guys money sometimes taking the opportunity early costs them long-term financial reward, but it’s very difficult to explain to a guy that has the potential to earn $300,000 a year, $500,000 a year, $600,000 a year, very little guaranteed, it’s hard to explain to him that that’s not really good money. It’s hard to explain to those guys because I think it’s really good money and I would have liked to have made that in a year when I was coming out of college. Certainly I did not, but there’s an opportunity cost that to some guys I have been successful in displaying and some guys not.
In the new draft the first two rounds is the only place where the guaranteed money is significant. From that point forward they’re paying a league minimum and the slots are much less and when you get to the back end obviously the guaranteed money is really very little.
I want our guys to go into the NFL. The first thing I want to do is this: I want every guy that I recruit to be a first-round draft pick. I want every guy that I recruit to have the opportunity to play a long, extended career in the NFL. I’d like to develop them. I’d like to make sure that they got their degree. I’d like to set them up in a position so they could say I can use the NFL or I can not use the NFL to have a great career and a great life and frankly I think this group valued an NFL career.
I can tell you they won 23 games in two years and there’s reason to believe that they could match up and play with anybody in the country. It’s an interesting thing. I watched the (BCS Championship) and in the last game there were a lot of guys that won national awards and were very spectacular players in college and I think our players match up as good as any.
Q: We all knew that you would lose several underclassmen, but would you have anticipated this many when the season ended? Read more...http://theadvocate.com/
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By RICHARD FISCHER
Tiger Rag Associate Editor
When all the dust settled, a total of 10 LSU underclassmen declared for the NFL Draft.
10!
This mass exodus included the likes of Chris Faulk, Michael Ford, Bennie Logan, Barkeveous Mingo, Kevin Minter, Sam Montgomery, Eric Reid, Tharold Simon, Spencer Ware and Brad Wing.
And it’s 11 if you consider dismissed Tyrann Mathieu who missed the entire 2012 season.
That looks like a good chuck of a collegiate all-star team when you consider that’s six (or seven if you include the Honey Badger) cogs to LSU’s fierce defense, a versatile, battering-ram of a running back and quite likely the most talented punter in the nation.
It’ll be quite a bit for LSU to overcome heading into the 2013 season.
But since we’ve got more than 200 days to break down how the Tigers will look on the field August 31 in Jerry World and beyond, I’m going to examine a different aspect regarding the effects of underclassmen leaving for the next level early.
That is: Are these kids making the best decision for their futures?
In order to answer that question, we must first accept that athletes have an opportunity that your average college student doesn’t have. They have a similar opportunity to the one that elite collegiate musicians, mathematicians, software designers and others who excel at their given trades have in that they are so gifted in their given field that they have the opportunity to make exorbitant amounts of money in said field before earning their college degree.
The difference, however, is that there is no amateur status governed by the high and mighty NCAA to oversee our non-athletic gifted youth and force them to make a decision between beginning their professional career and continuing their collegiate career. Read more...http://www.tigerrag.
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Dandy Don's LSU Sports Report
The record number of early departures — 10 from this year’s team, 11 if you count former All-America cornerback Tyrann Mathieu, who was kicked off the team in August — came on the heels of a last-second 25-24 loss to Clemson in the Chick-fil-A Bowl at the end of a disappointing 10-3 season.
Throw in the still-not-forgotten 21-0 flop against Alabama in the 2011 BCS Championship Game and even though it has barely been a year the Tigers completed an historic 13-0 regular season, it’s easy for their fans to wonder if one of the elite football programs in the country has suddenly gotten off track or might be headed in the wrong direction.
Head coach Les Miles sat down with The Advocate on Thursday to discuss the state of the program, the early departures, recruiting, this past season and other topics.
Here’s a transcript from the interview:
Miles: First of all, we recruit guys who specifically want to get a degree, want to be trained to play championship college football that would then also train them to play a pro style — offense, defense, special teams — and be able to showcase their abilities and go on to the NFL.
I think that that is a very logical transition for our guys. I think it’s an unbelievable number of juniors that leave. I think it speaks to the style of recruiting that we’ve had and I think it also speaks to the style of development and capabilities that these guys have.
I think each guy’s situation is completely different, specific to them and them only. The decision is truly theirs and not mine. I give them as much information as I possibly can and then systematically I support that decision, some with a very, very open opinion and a very strong opinion. But then, once the decision is made, it’s their decision and it’s their responsibility.
I think it’s kind of a unique thing in the fact that I think this will be a record of sorts for juniors coming out early. I think there are several different mechanisms going on here. I can tell you some of the reasons. Some of them are all based differently but I think by and large the decisions that were made were very understandable and we wish them the very best.
I think some guys are looking forward to having great and long pro careers and some guys are trying to optimize a lower position in a draft spot and maximize the number of years they get to be there. It’s an interesting thing. All of these guys, each guy, has a goal to play in the NFL. Irrespective of whether you’re the style of guy that can go in the first 10 picks or you’re the style of guy that’s going to go mid rounds to late but it’s been the goal of mine to be an NFL player and you know what? A lot of our guys get a chance to play in that league.
I think there’s a smart and orderly direction to a quality decision that a lot of our guys have gone through. It’s difficult to put the right round to leave early for. Some guys think they may never be most optimally positioned for the NFL and this may be the best that they’ve got. It may be bad but they think it’s the best that they have. That being said, we’ve described their scenarios as best we can and it’s really their decision. It really is.
I don’t think there’s any question that irrespective of what happened to Ty that he was probably going to be out this year anyway. It just falls into that number. I make the point that a degree is awfully important and you give nothing up, you’re still going to have the same marketability to the NFL that you have this year plus you have your degree, especially those late-round guys.
I also say that frankly I don’t want to give a deal to the NFL. I think that certain guys that leave early take the opportunity this time as opposed to positioning yourself in the NFL draft at a higher level sometimes costs guys money sometimes taking the opportunity early costs them long-term financial reward, but it’s very difficult to explain to a guy that has the potential to earn $300,000 a year, $500,000 a year, $600,000 a year, very little guaranteed, it’s hard to explain to him that that’s not really good money. It’s hard to explain to those guys because I think it’s really good money and I would have liked to have made that in a year when I was coming out of college. Certainly I did not, but there’s an opportunity cost that to some guys I have been successful in displaying and some guys not.
In the new draft the first two rounds is the only place where the guaranteed money is significant. From that point forward they’re paying a league minimum and the slots are much less and when you get to the back end obviously the guaranteed money is really very little.
I want our guys to go into the NFL. The first thing I want to do is this: I want every guy that I recruit to be a first-round draft pick. I want every guy that I recruit to have the opportunity to play a long, extended career in the NFL. I’d like to develop them. I’d like to make sure that they got their degree. I’d like to set them up in a position so they could say I can use the NFL or I can not use the NFL to have a great career and a great life and frankly I think this group valued an NFL career.
I can tell you they won 23 games in two years and there’s reason to believe that they could match up and play with anybody in the country. It’s an interesting thing. I watched the (BCS Championship) and in the last game there were a lot of guys that won national awards and were very spectacular players in college and I think our players match up as good as any.
Q: We all knew that you would lose several underclassmen, but would you have anticipated this many when the season ended? Read more...http://theadvocate.com/
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FISCHER: Outside the Box
No faulting underclassmen for early entry to the NFL
By RICHARD FISCHER
Tiger Rag Associate Editor
When all the dust settled, a total of 10 LSU underclassmen declared for the NFL Draft.
10!
This mass exodus included the likes of Chris Faulk, Michael Ford, Bennie Logan, Barkeveous Mingo, Kevin Minter, Sam Montgomery, Eric Reid, Tharold Simon, Spencer Ware and Brad Wing.
And it’s 11 if you consider dismissed Tyrann Mathieu who missed the entire 2012 season.
That looks like a good chuck of a collegiate all-star team when you consider that’s six (or seven if you include the Honey Badger) cogs to LSU’s fierce defense, a versatile, battering-ram of a running back and quite likely the most talented punter in the nation.
It’ll be quite a bit for LSU to overcome heading into the 2013 season.
But since we’ve got more than 200 days to break down how the Tigers will look on the field August 31 in Jerry World and beyond, I’m going to examine a different aspect regarding the effects of underclassmen leaving for the next level early.
That is: Are these kids making the best decision for their futures?
In order to answer that question, we must first accept that athletes have an opportunity that your average college student doesn’t have. They have a similar opportunity to the one that elite collegiate musicians, mathematicians, software designers and others who excel at their given trades have in that they are so gifted in their given field that they have the opportunity to make exorbitant amounts of money in said field before earning their college degree.
The difference, however, is that there is no amateur status governed by the high and mighty NCAA to oversee our non-athletic gifted youth and force them to make a decision between beginning their professional career and continuing their collegiate career. Read more...http://www.tigerrag.
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One Response to “FISCHER: Outside the Box”-
Charles Duncan on
January 10th, 2013 11:24 am
Good analogy
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TigerGumbo on January 11th, 2013 10:18 am The incredible truth:
The man that can’t stop selling the lie about what he can do for a living. The snake oil salesman, Les Miles. Because if he does stops lying. The town folks will hang him after finding out that he has been playing them for a bunch of suckers.
Hanging around Bo Schembechler at Michigan. Gave the limited talented lineman Les Miles a idea that this coaching college football business could become a good hustle. So that just what he did with his time and person. Telling everyone close to him that he is a college football coach. When in fact, he can’t coach college football at all.
But nothing more than another hang around hustler trying to strike it rich. For however long of a piece of time that he can.
Say hello LSU, can you make me rich?
Oh the shame of falling for a joker like that. The terrible disgrace that attaches to people that keep lying to themselves. Somehow Les Miles spread his lie on everyone he speaks to. Bamboozling them into going along with this money making scheme and tricking them into going along with this money making story of lie’s. Trying to fly high if only for a little while. Until of course they all get caught and finally must pay the piper. Spending the rest of their time covering up the scam.
Wow, what a sad development for the LSU football program. Losing Nick Saban to the NFL and then Alabama, only to go and hire the Les Miles get rich quick trickster. Oh god, the truth does hurt. I guess that is why no one running Louisiana State University really wants to tell it?
http://lsufootball.net/
LSU Football - Geaux Tigers!!!
| Times Picayune | Chris Faulk has his family's support for his NFL decision |
| Chattanooga Times | Alabama's 2013 schedule not too taxing |
| Birmingham News | Dameyune Craig returns to Auburn with support of friends, former teammates |
| Florida Sun-Sentinel | Gators have their QB, but face plenty of questions heading into offseason |
| Georgia Bulldogs | Richt recaps 2012 season, looks ahead to 2013 |
| CBS SportsLine | A&M hires Spavital as QB coach / co-OC |
| ESPN Media Zone | Viewership increases for ESPN bowl games; Peach Bowl sets non-BCS record |
| Birmingham News | College football bowl viewership increases 10% to stop historical 2-year slide |
| College Football News | Fiutak: Notre Dame shouldn't have to pay extra to keep its head man |
| USA Today | Pete Carroll: College coaches eyeing NFL hurt recruiting |
| USA Today | The good and bad of Twitter and college athletes |
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Dandy Don's LSU Sports Report
Good morning, Tiger Fans.
It was nice to hear from so many of you about my interview with NFL draft expert Mike Detillier. I understand the article generated quite a bit of buzz on the message boards, and that's great. Mike is an extremely well respected authority on NFL talent, and I consider his input on LSU's current exodus invaluable. If you missed it yesterday, click here to read the full interview: “DandyDon.com Asks NFL Draft Expert Mike Detillier About LSU’s Early Departures”
In recruiting news, LSU offensive guard signee Fehoko Fanaika (6'6", 340, College of San Mateo) has been cleared by the NCAA Clearinghouse and will start the spring semester at LSU next week, along with several other LSU early enrollees. To the best of my knowledge, the other early enrollees are Avery Johnson (WR, 6'2", 180, Pompano Beach, FL), Ethan Pocic (OL, 6'6", 280, Lemont, IL), Christian LaCouture (DT, 6'5", 270, Lincoln, NB), John Diarse (ATH, 6'0", 200, Neville), and the two incoming quarterbacks - Anthony Jennings (6'2", 202, Marietta, GA) and Hayden Rettig (6'3.5", 215, Los Angeles). Enrolling early and getting to participate in 20+ spring practices gives these players a big head start over the remainder of the signing class that will report in August.
Tomorrow will be an important day for LSU's 2014 recruiting efforts, as Coach Miles and staff will host their annual Boys from the Boot Junior Day. This is an invitation-only event that gives the prospects a chance to meet the coaching staff and tour LSU’s impressive facilities. There’s no workout at the event, but it’s a very informative and entertaining day for the prospects and their parent(s).
Below is a list of the prospects that I’ve heard are expected to be there:
Garrett Brumfield (OG, 6'3", 270, University High)
William Clapp (OG, 6'3", 270, Brother Martin)
Malachi Dupre (WR, 6'2", 185, John Curtis)
Leonard Fournette (RB, 6'2", 230, St. Augustine)
Rickey Gibson (S, 6'2", 185, Marksville)
Davon Godchaux (DL, 6'4", 250, Plaquemines)
Bailey Granier (LT, 6'6", 326, South Lafourche)
Donovan Isom (QB, 6'4", 225, Destrehan)
Anthony Jones (TE, 6'5", 215, Edna Karr)
Laurence Jones (CB, 6'2", 215, Neville)
Gerald McDowell (DT/LB, 6'2", 255, Covington)
Clay Moffitt (TE, 6'2", 215, Catholic)
Speedy Noil (WR, 5'10", 175, Edna Karr)
Sione Palelei (RB, 5'8", 185, East Ascension)
Trey Quinn (WR, 6'1", 190, Barbe)
Cameron Robinson (OL, 6'6", 230, West Monroe)
Cameron Sims (WR, 6'3", 190, Ouachita Christian)
Jacory Washington (WR/DE, 6'5", 220, Westlake)
Darrell Williams (ATH, 6'2", 210, John Ehret)
Gerald Willis (DE, 6'3" 265, Edna Karr)
Kenny Young (LB, 6'2", 205, John Curtis)
All of these players and many more will be in my list of Top LA Football Prospects for the Class of 2014 which I'll begin revealing Monday by posting numbers 46-50. Each day, Monday through Friday, I will reveal five more names until we reach the top-10, at which time I will profile one per day. My complete list, including numbers 1 through 50, and about 75 others that I'll call “Best of the Rest” and list alphabetically, will be posted on National Signing Day. I’ll also be handing out a hardcopy of the list at the annual Recruiting Bash.
Speaking of the Recruiting Bash, here are details about the event as provided by the GridIron Club. I encourage all of you who enjoy following LSU recruiting to make plans to attend. It’s a lot of fun and I look forward to meeting many of you there.
The Eighteenth Annual
Tiger Gridiron Club Bayou Bash Football Recruiting Party.
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And The Valley Shook
That paw doesn't just belong to Mike. (Photo by Kevin C. Cox/Getty Images)I am sitting in a hospital room right now, waiting for my wife to be induced to give birth to our first child, the Little Poseur. She's almost two weeks overdue, so the joyous occasion has become a bit of ordeal as we keep waiting and waiting and then waiting some more. However, we know eventually that we will go home parents of the world's newest LSU fan.
Early this morning, as we were worrying about those last things together as only nervous first time parents can worry about, "Dandy" Don Long passed away. One life ends, another begins.
Dandy Don is the biggest, and perhaps most important, Tiger fan of my lifetime. He was the first one to throw up a website in the early days of the internet, giving every Tiger fan recruiting updates and exposure to his relentless optimism. Everything we do here owes him a not inconsiderable debt. We are just following in the course he plotted.
For those of us that live outside of Louisiana now, Dandy Don has been one of our most vital connections back home. When I first graduated and moved back to Maryland, Dandy Don would be the first site I would read every morning, even before I checked my email. His site was LSU sports, even before LSU put together its own website. I kept track of recruiting and LSU baseball through his site, an almost impossible task in those early days.
We live in an era of snark and anger. The loudest voice seems to get the most attention, and the TV talk shows have degenerated into "writers" yelling at one another, each trying to take the most outrageous position. Or we can go in the opposite direction, and effect a persona of ironic detachment, mocking anyone who dares express an honest emotion. The internet, and sports blogs in particular, is like the cool kids table run amok.
Then there was a Dandy Don.
He wore his love of the Tigers on his sleeve, and I loved him for it. Loving something isn't a demerit, it's a virtue. And his passion shone through in his writing. Especially before LSU's resurgence as a national power, he'd still find a way to pick LSU to win every week even in the face of all contrary evidence. If he believed hard enough, maybe the team would come through. Then suddenly, the team did. LSU went from laughingstock to national power overnight, and Dandy Don's optimism was vindicated.
If you can't see the huge debt I owe to Don, well, you must be new around here. Delusional Optimism was always partly a tribute to him, a man who kept the faith in the Tigers when they really did give no reason to believe. He found the silver lining to go with the black clouds. He wrote not to criticize and demean, but to uplift. We need more voices like that, not just about LSU sports, but in our lives in general.
Go outside and say something nice to a stranger. See the positive in a bad situation. Believe. Don Long loved the Tigers, and he shared his love across the internet. He is rightfully a beloved institution among all Tiger fans. He was our common bond for over a decade.
I've been waiting two weeks for the birth of my first child, and I've often been frustrated and angered by the process, particularly after a failed induction. This ignores the fact that at the end of the process, I'll be a father. Really, what's two weeks? This is a time for joy, and worrying about the little things just takes away from the good things.
I never met Don Long. But he taught me how people respond to someone who simply tries to see the good in things. I owe him a great debt, and I hope we at ATVS can live up to the standards he has set. One Tiger dies, another is born to take his place.
I hope we can all live up to his legacy.
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