Wednesday, May 8, 2013

Beak me down I'll just play harder - A helping hand is not a hammer.



Tinker:

Some people must simply be crazy if they think demanding that someone else must do what they say, when they say it. and that talking bad and belittling the person will make everything better.
The Times Picayune advice to Les Miles about Jeremy Hill, quote "Spare the rod and spoil the program."

That the quote of course is not necessarily true. I know many young men who fell into trouble with the law and disrespected decency growing up. And many of those times a determine patient strong willed teacher pulled them aside and with devotion was able to help turn that young misguided man back onto the right path - to becoming a more mature and productive citizen. Not using the rod worked better against a fierce aggressive young men gone wild.

I hope Les Miles get very real with Jeremy Hill bad behavior and leave Jeremy the same chance that he had before his barroom fight crime. I hope Miles tells Jeremy to go and thank the lord, that the person he violently punched never died, or was permanently damaged. 


Somehow up until now Jeremy is skating on thin ice that Jeremy has misbehaved before and still stayed lucky living, working, and playing around his fellow man.

That it is time for him to realize that his behavior has not changed at all from everyone else's behavior. That we are all in the same boat if he breaks the law and does not respect other people living around him. That he must maintain control over his own behavior as everyone else.

That everyone has the same three choices that we have always live with in this so called civilized society. # 1 control our behave and do the best that we can.

# 2 See a doctor if we need a doctor helping hand to help us to keep our reasoning power.
# 3 Call a policemen and tell them that we are not willing to control yourself and need to be lockup in Jail, or Prison.

That outside of football is our real world for one and all, and but for the grace of god goes I. 
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http://www.nola.com/lsu/index.ssf/2013/05/les_miles_needs_to_handle_jere.html#incart_m-rpt-2

Les Miles needs to handle Jeremy Hill situation with a heavy hand

LSU spring football game- Jeremy Hill
 Read more...http://www.nola.com/lsu/index.ssf/2013/05/les_miles_needs_to_handle_jere.html#incart_m-rpt-2
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Tinker

The LSU football fans have never seen so many of the LSU tiger football players leave college to go play in the NFL professional football league before this past pro draft.

I mean not just the normal amount of senior that happens to gradation anyway. But it seem like this LSU football team sent more juniors then seniors off LSU 2012 football team.


Now the LSU football players who were left behind must face the music of the up and coming 2013 college football schedule all by themselves.

The sports writers are saying stuff like this:
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http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/63964/sec-post-spring-power-rankings-3
SEC 2013 pick # 6. LSU: Gradation and the NFL draft ravaged LSU's defense. Questions loom at linebacker and in the secondary, but coach Les Miles left spring pretty pleased with the defensive line. The offense should be improved with quarterback Zach Mettenberger's development, a solid line and all the receiving targets returning. But if running back Jeremy Hill's legal trouble sidelines him (he was suspended indefinitely after being charged with battery last week), the Tigers could be in trouble.
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Some of the LSU fans are saying things like this;
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CalTiger53
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Predictions for 2013 football  (Posted on 5/6/13 at 6:46 pm)



If defense is as bad as advertised and Hill does not play 7-5 is a reasonable expectation, what do you say?
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re: Predictions for 2013 football  (Posted on 5/6/13 at 6:46 pm to CalTiger53)



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CalTiger53
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re: Predictions for 2013 football  (Posted on 5/6/13 at 6:54 pm to sunnydaze)



Seriously, the way media talks about defense losing big time players you would think 7-5 is a great achievement. I don't think LSU defense was that great last year and it won't as bad as they think. I would say 10-2 or 9-3 even without Hill but I think Hill will play.
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putt23
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re: Predictions for 2013 football  (Posted on 5/6/13 at 7:06 pm to CalTiger53)




quote:

7-5 is a reasonable expectation



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Tinker:

And the factual background record looks like this:
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rieku2khWQ

Eric Reid Career Highlight

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgeF60YJ4WA

Barkevious Mingo Career Highlight

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April 30Congrats to the seven Tigers who signed NFL free agent contracts after the draft!
DE Chancey Aghayere, Seattle Seahawks
TE Chase Clement, New York Giants
OT Chris Faulk, Cleveland Browns
RB Michael Ford, Chicago Bears
C P.J. Lonergan, Chicago Bears
WR Russell Shepard, Philadelphia Eagles
P Brad Wing, Philadelphia Eagles


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LSU head coach Les Miles during his NFL Network appearance
Photo by:Michael Bonnette, Sports Information Director
Record Number of Tigers Selected in NFL Draft

by Jake Terry (@LSUjake), Associate


UPDATE: On top of LSU's nine draft picks in the seven-round NFL Draft, the following players signed free agent contracts late Saturday:

NEW YORK – LSU football broke the school record for the most selections in a single NFL Draft with nine total players picked this weekend, including three on the final day of the draft Saturday at Radio City Music Hall.

The previous record was eight selections in the 1948 Draft, but this year’s draft eclipsed that number after Tharold Simon, Lavar Edwards and Spencer Ware were all picked Saturday to add to the six Tigers selected on the first two days of the draft.

Simon was the first LSU player off the board on day three when he was drafted by the Seattle Seahawks with the fifth pick in the fifth round and 138th pick overall.


Edwards, LSU’s first senior selected in the draft, was chosen just four spots later in the fifth round (No. 142 overall) by the Tennessee Titans.

Ware rounded out the draft class for the Tigers when he was selected with the 26th pick in the sixth round (No. 194 overall) by the Seahawks.

LSU finished second among all college teams with nine total draft picks, only trailing Florida State who finished with 11.

Simon led LSU in pass breakups with nine and interceptions with four in 2012, and he finished his career with 99 total tackles, 22 PBUs and seven interceptions.

Day 1 Recap:
Barkevious Mingo | 1st Rd. | No. 6 | Cleveland Browns
Eric Reid | 1st Rd. | No. 18 | San Francisco 49ers
Day 2 Recap:
Kevin Minter | 2nd Rd. | No. 45 | Arizona Cardinals
Bennie Logan | 3rd Rd. | No. 67 | Philadelphia Eagles
Tyrann Mathieu | 3rd Rd. | No. 69 | Arizona Cardinals
Sam Montgomery | 3rd Rd. | No. 95 | Houston Texans

Edwards flourished in his senior season in 2012 with 26 tackles, 7.0 tackles for a loss, 4.5 sacks and an interception returned for a touchdown against Idaho. He finished his five-year career with 15 starts in 52 games played, 106 tackles, 20 TFLs, 10.5 sacks and two interceptions.

Ware finished with 1,249 rushing yards and 404 receiving yards on 39 receptions in his LSU career. He scored a total of 12 touchdowns in his career (10 rushing, 2 receiving), and he made 14 starts in 36 total games played in three seasons with the Tigers.
Tigers in the NFL (2012 Recap)
LSU NFL Draft Notebook
  • LSU’s nine selections shattered the previous school record of eight draft picks in 1948.
  • LSU’s six selections in the first three rounds are the most by the program in the first three rounds of an NFL Draft. The Tigers had five selections in the first three rounds of the 2011 draft.
  • Eight of LSU’s nine drafted players are underclassmen.
  • LSU finished second nationally with nine draft selections. Florida State was first with 11 selections, and Alabama was tied for second with nine as well.
  • LSU has had at least one defensive back in seven straight drafts. The Tigers have had 12 defensive backs chosen in the last seven NFL Drafts combined.
  • LSU has produced a defensive tackle selected in the draft for now six straight years.
  • LSU Hall of Famer Kevin Faulk was on hand at Radio City Music Hall on Friday to announce the New England Patriots draft picks.
  • Kevin Minter was the third-highest linebacker drafted in LSU history. Eric Hill went No. 10 overall to the Cardinals in 1989, while A.J. Duhe went No. 13 overall to the Dolphins in 1977.
  • Head coach Les Miles has now produced at least five NFL Draft picks in every draft he has been a part of at LSU (eight drafts).
  • For the first time in LSU history, LSU produced multiple first round picks in back-to-back drafts.
  • The school record for number of defensive players selected in a single modern draft was broken.
  • Nine of the 11 defensive starters on the 2011 team have been drafted in the past two years. All nine went in the first three rounds, including four in the first round.
2013 NFL Draft Order
Round 4
98. Philadelphia (from Jacksonville) - Matt Barkley, QB, USC
99. Kansas City - Nico Johnson, LB, Alabama
100. Tampa Bay (from Oakland) - Akeem Spence, DT, Illinois
101. Jacksonville (from Philadelphia) - Ace Sanders, WR, South Carolina
102. New England (from Detroit via Minnesota) - Josh Boyce, WR, TCU
103. Arizona - Alex Okafor, DE, Texas
104. Miami (from Cleveland) - Jelani Jenkins, LB, Florida
105. Buffalo - Duke Williams, FS, Nevada
106. Miami (from NY Jets via New Orleans) - Dion Sims, TE, Michigan St.
107. Tennessee - Brian Schwenke, C, California
108. Carolina - Edmund Kugbila, OG, Valdosta St.
109. Green Bay (from New Orleans via Miami) - David Bakhtiari, OT, Colorado
110. Arizona (from San Diego) - Ryan Nassib, QB, Syracuse
111. Pittsburgh (from Miami via Cleveland) - Shamarko Thomas, SS, Syracuse
112. Oakland (from Tampa Bay) - Tyler Wilson, QB, Arkansas
113. St. Louis - Barrett Jones, OG, Alabama
114. Dallas - B.W. Webb, CB, William & Mary
115. Pittsburgh - Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma
116. Arizona (from NY Giants) - Earl Watford, OG, James Madison
117. Chicago - Khaseem Greene, LB, Rutgers
118. Cincinnati - Sean Porter, LB, Texas A&M
119. Washington - Phillip Thomas, SS, Fresno St.
120. Minnesota - Gerald Hodges, LB, Penn St.
121. Indianapolis - Khaled Holmes, C, USC
122. Green Bay - J.C. Tretter, OT, Cornell
123. Seattle - Chris Harper, WR, Kansas St.
124. Houston - Trevardo Williams, DE, Connecticut
125. Green Bay (from Denver) - Johnathan Franklin, RB, UCLA
126. Tampa Bay (from New England) - William Gholston, DE, Michigan St.
127. Atlanta - Malliciah Goodman, DE, Clemson
128. San Francisco - Quinton Patton, WR, Louisiana Tech
129. Baltimore - John Simon, DE, Ohio St.
130. Baltimore (Compensatory) - Kyle Juszczyk, FB, Harvard
131. San Francisco (Compensatory) - Marcus Lattimore, RB, South Carolina
132. Detroit (Compensatory) - Devin Taylor, DE, South Carolina
133. Atlanta (Compensatory) - Levine Toilolo, TE, Stanford
Round 5
134. Kansas City - Sanders Commings, CB, Georgia
135. Jacksonville - Denard Robinson, WR, Michigan
136. Philadelphia - Earl Wolff, SS, NC State
137. Seattle (from Detroit) - Jesse Williams, DT, Alabama
138. Seattle (from Oakland) - Tharold Simon, CB, LSU
139. Indianapolis (from Cleveland) - Montori Hughes, DT, UT-Martin
140. Arizona - Stepfan Taylor, RB, Stanford
141. NY Jets - Oday Adoushi, OT, Virginia
142. Tennessee - Lavar Edwards, DE, LSU
143. Buffalo - Jonathan Meeks, DB, Clemson
144. New Orleans - Kenny Stills, WR, Oklahoma
145. San Diego - Steve Williams, CB, California
146. Denver (from Miami via Green Bay) - Quanterus Smith, DE, Western Kentucky
147. Tampa Bay - Steven Means, DE, Buffalo
148. Carolina - A.J. Klein, LB, Iowa St.
149. St. Louis - Brandon McGee, CB, Miami (Fla.)
150. Pittsburgh - Terry Hawthorne, CB, Illinois
151. Dallas - Joseph Randle, RB, Oklahoma St.
152. NY Giants - Cooper Taylor, S, Richmond
153. Atlanta (from Chicago) - Stansly Maponga, DE, TCU
154. Washington - Chris Thompson, RB, Florida St.
155. Minnesota - Jeff Locke, P, UCLA
156. Cincinnati - Tanner Hawkinson, OT, Kansas
157. San Francisco (from Indianapolis) - Quinton Dial, DE, Alabama
158. Seattle - Luke Wilson, TE, Rice
159. Green Bay - Micah Hyde, FS, Iowa
160. St. Louis (from Houston) - Zac Stacy, RB, Vanderbilt
161. Denver - Tavarres King, WR, Georgia
162. Washington (from New England) - Brandon Jenkins, DE, Florida St.
163. Chicago (from Atlanta) - Jordan Mills, OT, Louisiana Tech
164. Miami (from San Francisco via Cleveland) - Mike Gillislee, RB, Florida
165. Detroit (from Baltimore) - Sam Martin, P, Appalachian St.
166. Dolphins (Compensatory) - Caleb Sturgis, K, Florida
167. Green Bay (Compensatory) - Josh Boyd, DT, Mississippi St.
168. Baltimore (Compensatory) - Ricky Wagner, OT, Wisconsin
Round 6
169. Jacksonville - Josh Evans, FS, Florida
170. Kansas City - Eric Kush, C, California (PA)
171. Detroit - Corey Fuller, WR, Virginia Tech
172. Oakland - Nick Kasa, TE, Colorado
173. Denver (from Philadelphia via Cleveland, San Francisco and Arizona) - Vinston Painter, OT, Virgnia Tech
174. Arizona - Ryan Swope, WR, Texas A&M
175. Cleveland - Jamoris Slaughter, SS, Notre Dame
176. Houston (from Tennessee via Minnesota, Arizona and Oakland) - David Quessenberry, OT, San Jose St.
177. Buffalo - Dustin Hopkins, K, Florida St.
178. NY Jets - William Campbell, DT, Michigan
179. San Diego - Tourek Williams, DE, Florida International
180. San Francisco (from Miami) - Nick Moody, LB, Florida St.
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194. Seattle - Spencer Ware, RB, LSU
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Tinker:

What make a boy who grows into a man want to go fight the best athletes in the world in LSU tigers stadium?
Would you like to run full speed into 300 pounds of manhood that is also running as fast as they can at you, who would want to do that over and over again on the LSU football field?

America football players seem to earn the passion that they feel in the thrill of tackling another strong man as hard as they can. That feeling of popping the shoulder pads into the thighs of a fast running back simply thriller these people just as many times as they do it.

All the danger evaporates into wherever fear vanishes into after being replaced with triumphant health. Victory over the competitors is a special feeling.
Winning is everything to a football player.
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COOL HAND LUKE: Welcome to Battlefield: Louisiana


May 7, 2013   -   © 2013 Tiger Rag|

Tigers and Tide set for enormous recruiting battle in Louisiana



By LUKE JOHNSON
Tiger Rag Assistant Editor


I hate to point out the obvious, but stick with me: when LSU and Alabama lace up their cleats and clash on the field November 9 of this year, plenty will hinge on the outcome.
Of course bragging rights will be on the line for what has turned into one of college football’s best rivalries in recent years. If recent history stays true, the Southeastern Conference Western division crown might be at stake, which could propel the winner toward a berth in the (FINAL!) BCS National Championship Game.


It’s just one game, yet in recent years it has carried the magnitude of several. But there’s an added piece of significance to this year’s equation - one that’s been there in past years but has greater implications in 2013.

The future. One that both teams envision is a bright one with plenty of Louisiana talent providing the light.
But it won’t be easy getting there. The Crimson-clad army is planning to plunder the sweet athletic fruit from the fertile Louisiana soil. It’s up to the purple and gold bannermen to take the fight on the road in order to protect their assets at home base.


Welcome to Battlefield: Louisiana. The site of one of the biggest recruiting wars in recent history. Though recruiting is an imprecise science, the 2014 crop of Louisiana football players could alter the landscape of the SEC if it is even half as good as expected.

The prep football fields from New Orleans to Monroe will be loaded with what is considered to be elite-level talent on Friday nights this fall. Seven of ESPN’s top 40 recruits call Louisiana home, including the No. 1 overall recruit in St. Augustine running back Leonard Fournette.

They are the future game-changers like Fournette, who is one of the most highly-sought running back talents to come along in recent years. They are warriors in the trenches like West Monroe’s Cameron Robinson, who is considered the top offensive line recruit in the 2014 class.

They are the potential faces of programs, potential cornerstones in a national championship season, and you can bet the fight to get ink to meet paper on an LSU or Alabama letterhead will be vicious.

The two programs have risen to the top of the college football pyramid by recruiting and developing the best talent in the country, largely out of their own corner of the country here in the southeast.

They’re at the pinnacle of college football and they are there together. In order for one to rise above the other, it needs to deal a critical blow in the form of recruiting.

In particular, this class is crucial for LSU’s Les Miles. Consider how bad it would look for Miles to lose out on the top recruits from his own state - especially to a hated rival in Alabama.

Miles and his staff have shown themselves to be adept at keeping most of the top in-state talent within Louisiana’s borders with a couple exceptions. He can’t afford many exceptions this year.

The group from Louisiana is important to Saban for the same reason. If he can cross into enemy territory to land a couple top-flight recruits, he not only would be bolstering his own team’s efforts, but crippling LSU’s potential to unseat the Crimson Tide as the kings of college football.

Certainly LSU and Alabama will turn in what is considered to be a top-10 recruiting class when signing day is finished next year. But what could decide the overall success or failure of the program could depend on what happens in Louisiana.

The two top programs in the top division of the top conference in the nation need to win Louisiana in order to secure their standing as the best of the elite.

And if you were a top recruit from this area of the country, why wouldn’t you narrow your selections to those schools? Alabama and LSU have combined to win four of the last six national championship games, including that one game that we don’t like to rehash much here in Baton Rouge.

In that game, which we’ll choose to keep nameless and yearless, 31 players would go on to get drafted in the NFL
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You know what that does? That puts blinders on recruits, especially the local kids, focusing their vision on LSU and Alabama. What’s that, a letter from Georgia? Trash. Florida? Shredder.

If Ole Miss can harness some winning football out of the recruiting coup it pulled last season, maybe its name can be thrown into the fray. But until then, LSU and Alabama are the front-runners for just about every elite prospect from the Southeast.

Which brings me back to my original point. November 9, 2013. If it isn’t already circled on your calendar, go ahead and do it. You can bet those Louisiana recruits have already done so.

What plays out on the field that day will count as the first shots fired in a months-long recruiting battle.
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The Advocate Notes: SEC to mull permanent opponents

WBRZ Sports Baseball Video (2 min, 41 sec): Tiger ace Aaron Nola continues to improve, impress

Athens Banner-Herald Notes: Coaches split on nine-game schedule issues

Tuscaloosa News Alabama's BCS trip came with a hefty price tag

Chattanooga Times Quarterback Kiehl Frazier, Auburn see improvement

Clarion Ledger *1 Ole Miss QB Wallace making strides

CBS SportsLine More MACtion? MAC, ESPN expected to re-open media rights deal

College Football News Preview: Nebraska Cornhuskers

AFCA Targeting and crown-of-helmet guidelines

WAFB Sports Video (3 min, 33 sec): Ethan Pocic: #77 not "just 17"

Les Miles Video (2 min, 50 sec): Eric Reid career highlights

LSU Sports 2013 LSU Football parking map

ESPN Blog LSU Tigers spring wrap
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Tiger Bytes (5.7)

May 7, 2013   -   © 2013 Tiger Rag

Bringing you LSU news and headlines from around the web.


By LUKE JOHNSON
Tiger Rag Assistant Editor


There’s plenty for you to chew on today. Aaron Nola was able to celebrate the opening of his finals week with a Southeastern Conference honor, the football team is still trying to deal with its past and the basketball teams are looking forward to the future.

As usual, we’ve presented everything you could possibly want to know about LSU today in one neat and tidy blog post. Have at it.

LSU Baseball
Tiger Rag - Aaron Nola named SEC Pitcher of the Week, by Luke Johnson (@lukejohnson44)
LSU Football
Tiger Rag - STATISTICALLY SPEAKING: Late night bar fights are nothing new at LSU , by Jim Engster
Tiger Rag - COOL HAND LUKE: Welcome to Battlefield: Louisiana, by Luke Johnson (@lukejohnson44)
The Advocate - RABALAIS: SEC to mull permanent opponents, by Scott Rabalais (@RabalaisAdv)
NOLA.com - Classless or clever? Phoenix smoke shop takes out welcome ad for Tyrann Mathieu, by Jeff Duncan (@JeffDuncan_)
LSU Basketball
The Advocate - LSU women’s basketball to play tournament in Brooklyn
NOLA.com - LSU signee Jarell Martin already in 2014 Mock Draft, by Andrew Lopez (@_Andrew_Lopez)
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LSU Football 2013 - The Return

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