Sunday, July 19, 2015

And just how important is Krauthammer political advice to the American people?

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/worse-than-we-could-have-imagined/2015/07/16/aa320b42-2bf0-11e5-bd33-395c05608059_story.html

Worse than we could have imagined


By Charles Krauthammer Opinion writer July 16
 
When you write a column, as did I two weeks ago, headlined “The worst agreement in U.S. diplomatic history,” you don’t expect to revisit the issue. We had hit bottom. Or so I thought. Then on Tuesday the final terms of the Iranian nuclear deal were published. I was wrong.

Who would have imagined we would be giving up the conventional arms and ballistic missile embargoes on Iran? In nuclear negotiations?
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Comments

Thomas Williams
2:16 PM EST [Edited]
I am disgusted with Charles Krauthammer Monday night quarterbacking, after the fact? Where was all his political wisdom when he advised Ronald Ragan, back in the day? Or his political advice to the Washington DC establishment all these past years on this country's problems with the Middle East population, and elsewhere. 

No! This Barack Obama nuclear deal is a done deal, and he knows it. I think this is just some more of Charles Krauthammer playing around with his American aristocrats friends like always, and just putting on the same old Northeastern elitist clue Show for the Show sake. Like he has been doing for the sake of his media career on television. 

And frankly I don't seem to give a damn what Charles Krauthammer says about anything anymore about what he likes or don’t like in our country. Because what he says is not like what the President of the United States says, or from what the readers are saying, you know what I mean. 

And just how important is Krauthammer political advice to the American people?
But I truly hope what Barack Obama did doesn't kill a lot of the American people population who will become naked to Iran's social craziness in the years to come.
hawk41
1:43 PM EST
Wow, 106 more posts and it will be 5,000. I wonder how many of these agree with you, Dr. Krauthammer? Let me see. What's the "Most Liked" list like?
wbtyler
12:37 PM EST
Krauthammer's objections have at bottom nothing to do with this deal. His phrase, "in order to rob this deal of, at least, its domestic legitimacy" contains the core idea, which is to rob President Obama of his legitimacy, just as the Republican chattering class has been attempting to do ever since the 2008 election. No credible alternative to the agreement has been offered, unless you consider war a credible alternative.
Tizz Al Nabi
10:28 AM EST
I found it extremely disturbing to see the representatives of the Western powers laughing and joking with the representative of a country that openly sponsors world wide terror, oppresses women, hangs gays and calls for the destruction of a member of the UN (Israel). And now all the Europeans will be in a race to see who can make the best deals with them. Why are the woman's and Gay rights groups strangely silent?
HarrySnapperOrgans
9:50 AM EST
Obama and Kerry were like lambs to slaughter in these negotiations. Two clueless fools who have never held a real job or even been mildly effective in the jobs they were handed feeding at the public trough. Coming home and waving paper like Neville Chamberlain, while leaving four Americans in captivity behind, was gutless and adds one more item to the increasingly shameful legacy of Obama's administration. This agreement is treasonous and when Iran fires its first nuke (which it will) the blood will be on the hands of Obama and Kerry.
wbtyler
12:40 PM EST
Do you propose going to war with Iran then? Have you volunteered to serve in our armed services in support of such a war? The war in Iraq enabled ISIS. What do you think would come of war with Iran? And do you think that Russia would sit on its metaphoric thumbs while we invaded a country that borders directly on areas it considers its sphere of influence? Just how much bloodshed do you want?
F-swan
1:28 PM EST [Edited]
Uh oh...Strawman alert.

Why is it that pro-agreement types believe the only alternative to this agreement is a US invasion? As for Russia's metaphoric thumbs, how about those of Saudi Arabia and Egypt? This agreement is the start of a nuclear arms race in the Middle East. As an alternative, how about we just walk away from the table and tighten the econonmic screws? Since you seem to consider it important to trace issues to their origins (see ISIS comment), I would note the sanctions brought Iran to the table in the first place.

I agree (sort of) with your point about the origin of ISIS, but the surge brought Iraq under control. (Just ask Joseph Biden.) With the President's failure to get a Status of Forces agreement - did he really try any more than Bush tried to negotiate a settlement in Saddam's Iraq? - this has been Obama's issue for some time.

I am in my late 50s and have regretted nothing more in my political expression than voting for Obama. I cannot understand how rational people can look at this agreement and believe it is in our interests and in those of the world.
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Mamaromarc
9:17 AM EST
I am a liberal, and proudly voted for President Obama twice. In addition, from what I have seen of Mr. Krauthammer on TV and in writing, I disagree with him almost all of the time. This is different. I agree that this Iran deal is a mess and should be defeated by Congress, including having the veto overturned. Pres. Obama makes it seem that it's this deal or war. No. He makes it seem that a not-so-perfect deal is best. No. You have to understand who you are negotiating with. The Iranians openly mock the process of negotiations. It is in their belief system to get around agreements for their short-term gain. They will try and probably already have strategies to get around this. There is another option and that is what Mr. Krauthammer said, continue and strengthen the sanctions. Put more pressure on the Iranians. I can't believe I agree with Mr. Krauthammer, but there I go.
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